
The cursor UI has real problems (Destiny)
Because they would either have to clutter the screen with the text permanently being there for things like attributes (Strength for example), or make the cursor stop on them just to show you the tooltip.
So?
Because both are VERY bad UI design. We've gotten used to the first one in a lot of games, but that doesn't mean it's a good UI decision. The second one is probably about the worst UI design you can have in a system that has a selection go from element to element. The idea behind console design going between elements is that if you can select it you can hit A and expect something to happen. Having it so all it does is show you a tooltip is a wasteful action along the way and confuses users.
Why not just have the player press X to bring up the description, or have it pop up on a delay, or have some area of the screen designated for descriptions? Those don't fix the problem of having stats as selectable items that could get in the way unless you add that text to other things, but they address the other points.
The real issue I think with what you feel about the UI and what others feel is that you feel having to move the cursor to an element and hit A is more work than having to hit down, down, down, right right, right, A. While many of the rest of us obviously feel the opposite.
It's not the work involved, it's the time taken (as I've said). If you know where you're going and the system is designed well (or even just designed OK) it's faster to just press a few directions; you can see this in PCs, even, with people that prefer to use keyboard navigation (and don't like programs that don't support it).
Complete thread:
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 10:45
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
Monochron,
2014-08-21, 10:59
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . - Ragashingo, 2014-08-21, 11:05
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
yaters,
2014-08-21, 22:23
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 09:54
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 10:05
- Smartglass ... -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 10:20
- Smartglass ... - DaDerga, 2014-08-22, 10:22
- Smartglass ... - stabbim, 2014-08-22, 13:56
- Does no one use the sixaxis method? -
RC,
2014-08-23, 07:49
- Does no one use the sixaxis method? - kapowaz, 2014-08-23, 08:05
- Smartglass ... -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 10:20
- Steam Big Screen's is probably the best around -
ZackDark,
2014-08-22, 12:28
- Steam Big Screen's is probably the best around - kapowaz, 2014-08-25, 08:05
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 10:05
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . - General Vagueness, 2014-08-22, 12:49
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 09:54
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 11:04
- Agreed, I love it
- kidtsunami, 2014-08-21, 11:06
- Great Video.
- Ragashingo, 2014-08-21, 11:30
- Inventory management -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 12:14
- Inventory management -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 13:42
- Inventory management -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 14:36
- Inventory management - Ragashingo, 2014-08-21, 14:45
- Inventory management -
Penthesilean,
2014-08-21, 19:42
- Inventory management - stabbim, 2014-08-22, 09:47
- Inventory management -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 14:36
- Inventory management - General Vagueness, 2014-08-21, 19:39
- Inventory management -
agdtinman,
2014-08-22, 16:17
- Inventory management - kapowaz, 2014-08-22, 16:32
- Inventory management -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 13:42
- Yep - That's a great video - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-21, 12:39
- The cursor UI has real problems -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 09:44
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:14
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:18
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:33
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-23, 12:36
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-23, 12:38
- The cursor UI has real problems - General Vagueness, 2014-08-23, 13:14
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-23, 12:38
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-23, 12:36
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:33
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:18
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:14
- Agreed, I love it
- The cursor UI has real problems -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-08-21, 11:07
- You Are Not Alone
- DaDerga, 2014-08-21, 11:07
- Agreed. - SigbiasSilva, 2014-08-21, 11:13
- I loved the cursor
- Xenos, 2014-08-21, 11:42
- The cursor UI has real problems -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 12:18
- The cursor UI has real problems -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-08-21, 12:25
- The cursor UI has real problems - kapowaz, 2014-08-21, 12:27
- The cursor UI has real problems -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-08-21, 12:25
- +1 for liking it
- Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-21, 12:41
- Nope, it's fine by me too.
- Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-08-21, 14:58
- The cursor UI has real problems - roland, 2014-08-21, 17:27
- You Are Not Alone
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Mars,
2014-08-21, 11:19
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 11:33
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - Mars, 2014-08-21, 12:04
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 19:34
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 19:53
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 20:35
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 20:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 22:24
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 22:43
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 11:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - stabbim, 2014-08-22, 13:59
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - General Vagueness, 2014-08-22, 15:19
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - General Vagueness, 2014-08-22, 12:51
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 11:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 22:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 13:25
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 13:32
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - Ragashingo, 2014-08-22, 16:01
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Avateur,
2014-08-22, 16:24
- Wow. Even I didn't notice that! :p
- Ragashingo, 2014-08-22, 16:50
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - General Vagueness, 2014-08-23, 12:40
- Wow. Even I didn't notice that! :p
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 13:32
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 13:25
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 22:43
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 22:24
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 20:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - kapowaz, 2014-08-22, 01:16
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 20:35
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 19:53
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 11:33
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Jabberwok,
2014-08-21, 14:52
- The cursor UI has real problems -
agdtinman,
2014-08-22, 16:27
- The cursor UI has real problems - General Vagueness, 2014-08-23, 12:45
- The cursor UI has real problems -
agdtinman,
2014-08-22, 16:27
- Maybe it was designed for Kinect/EYE/DualShock4 touchpad use
- Pyromancy, 2014-08-21, 17:54
- Maybe it was designed for Kinect/EYE/DualShock4 touchpad use - Miguel Chavez, 2014-08-21, 21:34
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-23, 13:24
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-23, 16:09
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Cody Miller, 2014-08-23, 16:14
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-23, 20:51
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Avateur,
2014-08-23, 21:35
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-23, 23:21
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 01:14
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 02:32
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 05:12
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 10:36
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - kapowaz, 2014-08-25, 02:11
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 10:36
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 05:12
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
breitzen,
2014-08-24, 06:53
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - kapowaz, 2014-08-24, 08:08
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 02:32
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - General Vagueness, 2014-08-24, 18:42
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 01:14
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 18:37
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 18:41
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 19:20
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:34
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* - Phoenix_9286, 2014-08-24, 20:26
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:34
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 19:20
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Avateur, 2014-08-24, 18:43
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 18:41
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-23, 23:21
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
JDQuackers,
2014-08-24, 18:00
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 19:33
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - ZackDark, 2014-08-24, 19:39
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 19:47
- That, I agree with -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:57
- That, I agree with - Phoenix_9286, 2014-08-24, 20:36
- That, I agree with -
kapowaz,
2014-08-25, 08:09
- Yep.
- Kermit, 2014-08-25, 09:39
- Yep.
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
agdtinman,
2014-08-25, 16:19
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Mars, 2014-08-25, 16:29
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - General Vagueness, 2014-08-25, 23:43
- That, I agree with -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:57
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 19:33
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Avateur,
2014-08-23, 21:35
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
agdtinman,
2014-08-25, 16:04
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-25, 17:02
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Claude Errera, 2014-08-25, 18:30
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-25, 17:02
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-23, 16:09
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
Monochron,
2014-08-21, 10:59