Wow (Destiny)
What about the other day when you posted "Don't get your hopes up" and "Don't do this to yourselves"? This has the same tone and seems like it has the same message.
Cynicism =/= stepping on people's hopes. I was highlighting the fact that people were getting excited about something that has not actually been confirmed, which has happened before with this game and has never turned out well.
Come on, man. Please cut me a little slack here? It is not my intention to spoil anyone's fun here. I'm just trying to be realistic. Historically, building grandiose expectations of upcoming content in this game has only led to disappointment.
Hell, even if I were stepping on your hopes, so what? Y'all have it easy here. Try being a Halo fan on HBO these days.
No, but they showed Guardians on a platform in a flat debris field with a banded planet behind it. Presuming we're staying in our own solar system, it's one of the gas giants, and Saturn is the one everyone thinks of as the ringed planet (and the one fans have been wanting the most because someone foolishly mentioned it in a vidoc one time).
True, but is it a new explorable area or just the location for a Raid?
I think when people hear the words "go to Saturn", they envision being able to actually run patrols there (or the ship, or whatever the case may be). They want to see it in the Director. They want to be able to explore the terrain.
When Mercury turned out to be a single multiplayer map in the retail game, I think more than a few people were a little confused. There's nothing inherently wrong with that design choice, of course, and given Destiny's fiction it wouldn't make much sense for Mercury to be a hot-spot of activity, but people allowed their expectations to shape their vision of what Destiny was going to be, and when it didn't turn out that way, they couldn't understand what had happened.
I'm calling it now. If Saturn (or the ship, or whatever the case may be) is not a fully explorable "fifth destination", people are going to bitch about it, and it will be entirely because of the expectations that they had formed for what it could have been. "I thought this was supposed to be an expansion." "I didn't pay $40 for this paltry crap." Et cetera...
(Activision's marketing is partly to blame for encouraging players to form these lofty expectations, IMO, but that's a whole different can of worms that we won't be addressing here.)
I'm not saying that Saturn won't be a "fifth destination". I don't know. None of us know. And that's the point. I was only trying to highlight that Bungie hasn't said anything definitive one way or the other, and that forming expectations is probably unwise, especially given this game's track record.
Okay? Is that clear enough for you? Can we please desist with the "car15 villain" shit?
Complete thread:
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 00:21
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-16, 00:36
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net - Avateur, 2015-06-16, 00:42
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
Kermit,
2015-06-16, 00:49
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
unoudid,
2015-06-16, 00:50
- Wait, what?! -
car15,
2015-06-16, 00:54
- Seriously! -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-16, 00:56
- To be fair -
someotherguy,
2015-06-16, 01:02
- To be fair -
Leviathan,
2015-06-16, 01:06
- To be fair -
someotherguy,
2015-06-16, 01:08
- The crazy part is the digital version is same price -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:21
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 01:36
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:50
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 03:44
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-16, 13:49
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 13:50
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. - Ragashingo, 2015-06-16, 13:52
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. - Kermit, 2015-06-17, 13:19
- Excited for you to transition to the xbone! - unoudid, 2015-06-18, 14:23
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 13:50
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-16, 13:49
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 03:44
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:50
- Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's problems with the website. -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 01:36
- To be fair - Leviathan, 2015-06-16, 01:21
- The crazy part is the digital version is same price -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:21
- To be fair -
someotherguy,
2015-06-16, 01:08
- Let's not use that "F" word... ;) -
Mid7night,
2015-06-16, 02:05
- Let's not use that "F" word... ;) -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 02:08
- Let's not use that "F" word... ;) - Mid7night, 2015-06-16, 02:16
- I've got most the emblems... is it worth an extra $40? :-/ - dogcow, 2015-06-16, 03:55
- I still don't have my Inner Circle :( - someotherguy, 2015-06-16, 13:01
- *Exotic* Class Items... That I "can't" use - someotherguy, 2015-06-16, 12:48
- Let's not use that "F" word... ;) -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 02:08
- To be fair -
Leviathan,
2015-06-16, 01:06
- Seriously! -
car15,
2015-06-16, 01:37
- Seriously! -
Leviathan,
2015-06-16, 02:20
- Seriously! -
car15,
2015-06-16, 02:47
- Seriously! -
Leviathan,
2015-06-16, 02:50
- Seriously! -
car15,
2015-06-16, 03:00
- Seriously! - Leviathan, 2015-06-16, 03:40
- Seriously! -
car15,
2015-06-16, 03:00
- Seriously! -
Leviathan,
2015-06-16, 02:50
- Seriously! -
car15,
2015-06-16, 02:47
- Seriously! -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-16, 13:06
- Wow -
car15,
2015-06-16, 16:35
- Wow -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-16, 17:43
- Wow -
car15,
2015-06-17, 21:00
- Wow - dogcow, 2015-06-17, 21:14
- Wow -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-17, 21:33
- Wow -
car15,
2015-06-17, 22:09
- Wow - dogcow, 2015-06-18, 14:02
- The Lighthouse? Alpha Lupi. -
dogcow,
2015-06-18, 13:59
- Also the Caloris spires. Fun fact! - Funkmon, 2015-06-18, 14:35
- The Lighthouse? Alpha Lupi. - Ragashingo, 2015-06-18, 14:49
- Flawless ToO required for Sunbreaker. Confirmed. - someotherguy, 2015-06-18, 18:32
- Wow -
car15,
2015-06-17, 22:09
- Wow - General Vagueness, 2015-06-18, 15:59
- Wow -
car15,
2015-06-17, 21:00
- Wow -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-16, 17:43
- Wow -
car15,
2015-06-16, 16:35
- Seriously! -
Leviathan,
2015-06-16, 02:20
- To be fair -
someotherguy,
2015-06-16, 01:02
- Wait, what?! - Leviathan, 2015-06-16, 01:00
- Seriously! -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-16, 00:56
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
EffortlessFury,
2015-06-16, 01:19
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net - Vortech, 2015-06-16, 01:23
- Wait, what?! -
car15,
2015-06-16, 00:54
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:01
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
unoudid,
2015-06-16, 01:03
- Woah. It really is $40 Wingwangs? - INSANEdrive, 2015-06-16, 01:14
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net - Vortech, 2015-06-16, 01:14
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
unoudid,
2015-06-16, 01:03
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
unoudid,
2015-06-16, 00:50
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!!! -
unoudid,
2015-06-16, 00:57
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:25
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
unoudid,
2015-06-16, 01:27
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:30
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
ZackDark,
2015-06-16, 01:35
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! - MacAddictXIV, 2015-06-18, 14:53
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
ZackDark,
2015-06-16, 01:35
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:30
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
unoudid,
2015-06-16, 01:27
- class specific emotes aka NEW DANCE MOVES!! -
Vortech,
2015-06-16, 01:25
- Saturn? - electricpirate, 2015-06-16, 01:30
- Still free digital upgrade from 360 to ONE? -
CougRon,
2015-06-16, 01:41
- I wonder this, too, for both platforms. -
Kermit,
2015-06-16, 02:27
- It's up to Activision, not Bungie -
JDQuackers,
2015-06-17, 00:40
- It's up to Activision, not Bungie -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-17, 01:40
- It's up to Activision, not Bungie -
Leviathan,
2015-06-17, 02:00
- yep. - Kermit, 2015-06-17, 02:02
- It's up to Activision, not Bungie - General Vagueness, 2015-06-17, 02:58
- It's up to Activision, not Bungie -
Leviathan,
2015-06-17, 02:00
- It's up to Activision, not Bungie -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-17, 01:40
- It's up to Activision, not Bungie -
JDQuackers,
2015-06-17, 00:40
- Still free digital upgrade from 360 to ONE? - General Vagueness, 2015-06-16, 15:30
- I wonder this, too, for both platforms. -
Kermit,
2015-06-16, 02:27
- I can't recall a time when my feelings were so ... Mixed. - INSANEdrive, 2015-06-16, 01:42
- Interview with more details -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 02:46
- Mayhem Clash sounds awesome -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 02:52
- Mayhem is so much fun! -
Beorn,
2015-06-18, 23:51
- Was it like basketball slamming the thing in? - Funkmon, 2015-06-19, 00:00
- Is there a new Defensive Super at all? -
Avateur,
2015-06-19, 01:52
- Titan Bubble = fun for everyone else. - dogcow, 2015-06-19, 12:45
- Mayhem is so much fun! -
Beorn,
2015-06-18, 23:51
- Mayhem Clash sounds awesome -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 02:52
- Hey Bungie, please re-stock those shirts! :D -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 02:53
- Same -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 02:58
- Have not been able to buy appealing women's shirts ever... -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-16, 12:35
- Have not been able to buy appealing women's shirts ever... -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 23:05
- I did the same thing, just checked out - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-17, 13:06
- Have not been able to buy appealing women's shirts ever... -
Avateur,
2015-06-16, 23:05
- Have not been able to buy appealing women's shirts ever... -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-16, 12:35
- Gotta be fast like me bro! - iconicbanana, 2015-06-16, 03:04
- The sizes appear to be back in stock! - Avateur, 2015-06-16, 23:03
- Same -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 02:58
- Kar15 Korner -
car15,
2015-06-16, 02:55
- Kar15 Korner -
Kermit,
2015-06-16, 03:30
- Kar15 Korner - Leviathan, 2015-06-16, 03:51
- Kar15 Korner -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-16, 03:51
- Kar15 Korner - Avateur, 2015-06-16, 04:01
- Kar15 Korner - Cody Miller, 2015-06-17, 00:11
- Kar15 Korner -
Kermit,
2015-06-16, 03:30
- Bow down -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-16, 05:39
- Clauswitz would be proud -
Durandal,
2015-06-16, 10:16
- Titan waz here - red robber, 2015-06-16, 10:23
- Clauswitz would be proud - Xenos, 2015-06-16, 12:24
- Clauswitz would be proud -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-16, 12:30
- Clauswitz would be proud -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 13:34
- Clauswitz would be proud - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-16, 16:06
- Clauswitz would be proud -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 13:34
- Bow down - Korny, 2015-06-16, 12:28
- Having watched the trailer too many times *MANY GIFVs* -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-16, 13:15
- Having watched the trailer too many times *MANY GIFVs* -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-16, 13:33
- Having watched the trailer too many times *MANY GIFVs* -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 13:39
- Oooh. Interesting guess. You might be right! - Ragashingo, 2015-06-16, 13:42
- Having watched the trailer too many times *MANY GIFVs* -
Xenos,
2015-06-16, 13:39
- Having watched the trailer too many times *MANY GIFVs* -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-16, 13:33
- Clauswitz would be proud -
Durandal,
2015-06-16, 10:16
- The Wait and See... - Kahzgul, 2015-06-16, 16:30
- Lots of Taken King stuff up on Bungie.net -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-16, 00:36