Time sinks (Destiny)
Really? Are we back to Cody's "if you're playing a video game instead of doing something productive, you're wasting your time" argument?
That's not what I am saying. I'm saying if you aren't having fun, your time is being wasted. Destiny put up many many barriers to fun, thus has a lot of wasted time. Not a second of my time playing Wolfenstein New Order for example, was wasted. Not. One. Second.
You take a selfish and entitled approach. Your idea of fun (playing at a mid-tier skill level against top-tier challenges) is often at the expense of others. Your playstyle often wastes other people's time, because you die. A lot. Like, A LOT. And while it doesn't bother me, and I enjoy playing with you, more often than not, you're screwing over everyone else, so YOU become the barrier to fun for others.
"Sorry guys, I don't have any heavy ammo, because I didn't want to grind ten minutes to buy it. It's all Bungie's fault."
"Sorry guys, I didn't have the materials to upgrade my gear, because I didn't want to run patrol and gather it. It's Bungie's fault."
"Sorry guys, I know I've died thirty times in this one encounter because I made all of these mistakes, but I don't want to do the quick cheese because that's not fun, and it's Bungie's fault for all of this time that's being wasted."
You are the demons.
It was simply a game much better designed than Destiny.
Also, it was an exclusively single-player experience, and the entire team could devote themselves to that fact. It can not be compared in any significant way, shape, or form to Destiny, because other than being FPSs, they're not even remotely in the same genre. In W:TNO, you pressed on and persevered with the tools at your disposal, being rewarded in small ways based on your playstyle. It was linear, and progression was linear. Great game, but nothing like an MMO/RPG.
I imagine that if Destiny was a single-player experience, we'd be lauding it up and down, since the grimoire would have been implemented, and much more of the game's focus and development would be on story, cutscenes, and characters... But that's not how an MMO works. It's never been, and never will be (I mean, Elder Scrolls Online tried, and look where that got them).
Complete thread:
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 10:31
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - JDQuackers, 2015-01-16, 10:46
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 10:49
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 10:51
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 10:55
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:00
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:05
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:13
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 11:25
- :: golf claps :: - RevDotNed, 2015-01-16, 11:35
- I like this guy. He knows what's up... -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 12:20
- +2 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:26
- You realize that, due to inflation, your +2 was really a +1? - UnrealCh13f, 2015-01-16, 12:29
- I like this guy. He knows what's up... -
bluerunner,
2015-01-16, 12:39
- -2 *NM* - Avateur, 2015-01-16, 12:42
- In this version, only hope dies. - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 12:45
- I like this guy. He knows what's up... - Cody Miller, 2015-01-16, 13:07
- +2 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:26
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-01-16, 12:32
- Strikes? -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:26
- Strikes? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:09
- Re MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING... -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-01-16, 13:17
- Strikes? - Cody Miller, 2015-01-16, 13:18
- Strikes? - someotherguy, 2015-01-16, 19:37
- If the game had a glimmer wall... -
scarab,
2015-01-17, 01:32
- Hahah! - RaichuKFM, 2015-01-17, 10:38
- SUPERGOODADVICE NOW BEST EXOTIC - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-01-20, 09:08
- Re MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING... -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-01-16, 13:17
- Strikes? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:09
- Are you not hoarding your glimmer consumables\rewards? -
Revenant1988,
2015-01-16, 11:35
- Are you not hoarding your glimmer consumables\rewards? - Raflection, 2015-01-16, 11:53
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 11:25
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:13
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:05
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:00
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 10:55
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 11:46
- Why? -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:48
- Why? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 11:53
- +2 -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:06
- I take your +2 and raise you a +3 -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- +4 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- We're creating inflation in the + market -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:13
- SELL SELL SELL -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:14
- How much can I get for one of these? -
Quirel,
2015-01-17, 02:44
- all I got is a bunch of "-1th" lying around. - LostSpartan, 2015-01-18, 07:41
- How much can I get for one of these? -
Quirel,
2015-01-17, 02:44
- SELL SELL SELL -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:14
- We're creating inflation in the + market -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:13
- +4 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- I take your +2 and raise you a +3 -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- Why? - nash, 2015-01-16, 12:18
- Commodify All The Things! -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 14:26
- Commodify All The Things! -
nash,
2015-01-16, 14:37
- Commodify All The Things! -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 14:45
- Well played! -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 14:50
- You're close; I've got better style. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:13
- You're close; I've got better style. -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 16:06
- <3 - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 16:36
- You're close; I've got better style. -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 16:06
- You're close; I've got better style. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:13
- Well played! -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 14:50
- Commodify All The Things! -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 14:45
- Commodify All The Things! -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:16
- Thank you. - BeardFade, 2015-01-16, 15:25
- Commodify All The Things! -
nash,
2015-01-16, 14:37
- Why? - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 14:39
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 15:00
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:10
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Let's try this again? - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 16:41
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality - Kermit, 2015-01-16, 15:28
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 15:32
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 16:38
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:10
- +2 -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:06
- Why? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 11:53
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Kermit,
2015-01-16, 12:35
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 12:48
- Why? -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:48
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-01-16, 12:30
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 12:39
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:16
- Time sinks -
nico,
2015-01-16, 13:23
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 13:25
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 13:37
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 14:00
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 14:58
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 15:41
- Time sinks - Avateur, 2015-01-16, 15:50
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 15:41
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 14:58
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 14:24
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 14:40
- Wow. Burn. Like Nightfall level burn. - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 14:49
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 15:57
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 16:29
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 16:32
- Time sinks - Korny, 2015-01-16, 17:10
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 16:32
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 16:29
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 14:40
- As someone who fits the "power player" profile... - Korny, 2015-01-16, 14:24
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 14:00
- Time sinks - nico, 2015-01-16, 13:39
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 13:37
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 13:25
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 14:45
- Time sinks -
nico,
2015-01-16, 13:23
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:16
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 16:57
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 17:02
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? - scarab, 2015-01-17, 00:33
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-01-17, 13:14
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 17:02
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 12:39
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 10:51
- On relative lack of Heavy ammo - RaichuKFM, 2015-01-16, 11:01
- REKT - Revenant1988, 2015-01-16, 11:04
- Iron Banner requires Glimmer Farming, too -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-16, 11:34
- Iron Banner requires Glimmer Farming, too - unoudid, 2015-01-16, 11:40
- Go buy some from Eris? -
Beorn,
2015-01-16, 11:36
- this - Schedonnardus, 2015-01-16, 13:03
- heavy ammo cheese? - Schedonnardus, 2015-01-16, 13:11
- Trading? - nico, 2015-01-16, 13:47
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 15:10
- It's just a game after all - R41, 2015-01-16, 16:06
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Morpheus, 2015-01-17, 19:29
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Malagate, 2015-01-19, 07:41