Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality (Destiny)
It looks like people are approaching this from different views. Cody and Macphisto are suggesting that the economic systems in place aren't good for the game. That might be right. I'm not convinced one way or the other.
Beardfade is looking at the system as it exists and saying that Cody should have known better. The system wasn't hiding anything from him. I don't hear Beardfade arguing that the economy is the bestest thing ever. I do hear him saying: think!
There's a lot of crap in Destiny, and Cody is damn good at pointing it out.
I agree. I value Cody's contributions to this board, but he is often wrong about a lot of things in my opinion and his post was begging to be deconstructed. It isn't that Cody shouldn't criticize the game. It is that he shouldn't pretend that the game was behaving deceptively when the outcomes were clearly under his control. He was opportunistically using this scenario to highlight a pet peeve of his. Fair. But he didn't frame it that way. Instead, he framed it as though he had to rearrange his life because Bungie somehow swindled him. That isn't true and Beardfade called him on it.
Complete thread:
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 10:31
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - JDQuackers, 2015-01-16, 10:46
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 10:49
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 10:51
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 10:55
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:00
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:05
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:13
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 11:25
- :: golf claps :: - RevDotNed, 2015-01-16, 11:35
- I like this guy. He knows what's up... -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 12:20
- +2 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:26
- You realize that, due to inflation, your +2 was really a +1? - UnrealCh13f, 2015-01-16, 12:29
- I like this guy. He knows what's up... -
bluerunner,
2015-01-16, 12:39
- -2 *NM* - Avateur, 2015-01-16, 12:42
- In this version, only hope dies. - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 12:45
- I like this guy. He knows what's up... - Cody Miller, 2015-01-16, 13:07
- +2 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:26
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-01-16, 12:32
- Strikes? -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:26
- Strikes? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:09
- Re MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING... -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-01-16, 13:17
- Strikes? - Cody Miller, 2015-01-16, 13:18
- Strikes? - someotherguy, 2015-01-16, 19:37
- If the game had a glimmer wall... -
scarab,
2015-01-17, 01:32
- Hahah! - RaichuKFM, 2015-01-17, 10:38
- SUPERGOODADVICE NOW BEST EXOTIC - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-01-20, 09:08
- Re MIND-NUMBINGLY BORING... -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-01-16, 13:17
- Strikes? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:09
- Are you not hoarding your glimmer consumables\rewards? -
Revenant1988,
2015-01-16, 11:35
- Are you not hoarding your glimmer consumables\rewards? - Raflection, 2015-01-16, 11:53
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 11:25
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:13
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:05
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 11:00
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 10:55
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 11:46
- Why? -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:48
- Why? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 11:53
- +2 -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:06
- I take your +2 and raise you a +3 -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- +4 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- We're creating inflation in the + market -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:13
- SELL SELL SELL -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:14
- How much can I get for one of these? -
Quirel,
2015-01-17, 02:44
- all I got is a bunch of "-1th" lying around. - LostSpartan, 2015-01-18, 07:41
- How much can I get for one of these? -
Quirel,
2015-01-17, 02:44
- SELL SELL SELL -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:14
- We're creating inflation in the + market -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:13
- +4 -
petetheduck,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- I take your +2 and raise you a +3 -
UnrealCh13f,
2015-01-16, 12:12
- Why? - nash, 2015-01-16, 12:18
- Commodify All The Things! -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 14:26
- Commodify All The Things! -
nash,
2015-01-16, 14:37
- Commodify All The Things! -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 14:45
- Well played! -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 14:50
- You're close; I've got better style. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:13
- You're close; I've got better style. -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 16:06
- <3 - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 16:36
- You're close; I've got better style. -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 16:06
- You're close; I've got better style. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:13
- Well played! -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 14:50
- Commodify All The Things! -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 14:45
- Commodify All The Things! -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:16
- Thank you. - BeardFade, 2015-01-16, 15:25
- Commodify All The Things! -
nash,
2015-01-16, 14:37
- Why? - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 14:39
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
ckamp,
2015-01-16, 15:00
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:10
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Let's try this again? - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 16:41
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality - Kermit, 2015-01-16, 15:28
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 15:32
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 16:38
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Distinguishing between criticism and misrepresenting reality -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 15:10
- +2 -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 12:06
- Why? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-16, 11:53
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Kermit,
2015-01-16, 12:35
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-16, 12:48
- Why? -
someotherguy,
2015-01-16, 11:48
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-01-16, 12:30
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 12:39
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:16
- Time sinks -
nico,
2015-01-16, 13:23
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 13:25
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 13:37
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 14:00
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 14:58
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 15:41
- Time sinks - Avateur, 2015-01-16, 15:50
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 15:41
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 15:24
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 14:58
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 14:24
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 14:40
- Wow. Burn. Like Nightfall level burn. - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 14:49
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 15:57
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 16:29
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 16:32
- Time sinks - Korny, 2015-01-16, 17:10
- Time sinks -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 16:32
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 16:29
- Time sinks -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 14:40
- As someone who fits the "power player" profile... - Korny, 2015-01-16, 14:24
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 14:00
- Time sinks - nico, 2015-01-16, 13:39
- Time sinks -
Claude Errera,
2015-01-16, 13:37
- Time sinks -
Avateur,
2015-01-16, 13:25
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 14:45
- Time sinks -
nico,
2015-01-16, 13:23
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 13:16
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
BeardFade,
2015-01-16, 16:57
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 17:02
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? - scarab, 2015-01-17, 00:33
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-01-17, 13:14
- How is Destiny's system an economy if there is no trade? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 17:02
- Economics. I do not think it means what you think it means. -
Korny,
2015-01-16, 12:39
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-16, 10:51
- On relative lack of Heavy ammo - RaichuKFM, 2015-01-16, 11:01
- REKT - Revenant1988, 2015-01-16, 11:04
- Iron Banner requires Glimmer Farming, too -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-16, 11:34
- Iron Banner requires Glimmer Farming, too - unoudid, 2015-01-16, 11:40
- Go buy some from Eris? -
Beorn,
2015-01-16, 11:36
- this - Schedonnardus, 2015-01-16, 13:03
- heavy ammo cheese? - Schedonnardus, 2015-01-16, 13:11
- Trading? - nico, 2015-01-16, 13:47
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Ragashingo, 2015-01-16, 15:10
- It's just a game after all - R41, 2015-01-16, 16:06
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Morpheus, 2015-01-17, 19:29
- Guess I have to ditch iron banner - Malagate, 2015-01-19, 07:41