Do we really want games to surprise us? (Gaming)
Yeah, totally. And as the folks in this thread show, different people look for different kinds of "fun" in their games, which is what causes devs to play it safe and try to cater to as broad of an audience as they can... Which can lead to the problem that the whole initial post is about, really: can a game be a "good game" without catering to a broad audience?
Never Alone is pretty much my exact response to that question. It is around 70 for metacritic scores, and generally got mixed reviews. But it is a work of art with built in cultural learning and context. It was a great experience. But I know it is not the sort of game with broad appeal in many, many ways.
Albeit there is no flat answer. I think it becomes a question of scale and who is monetarily invested in it on what audience size is aimed for. Personally? Most of my favorite games are more targeted experiences with niche appeal with a subset of broad appeal games rounding out my library. And that is not for everyone.
Complete thread:
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 11:47
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 12:21
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-09, 12:24
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 12:25
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
ManKitten,
2017-08-09, 12:33
- ^ this - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-09, 14:28
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - MacAddictXIV, 2017-08-09, 12:43
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
ManKitten,
2017-08-09, 12:33
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 12:43
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 12:49
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 12:59
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:03
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Malagate,
2017-08-09, 13:15
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:41
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Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:55
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:57
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Korny,
2017-08-09, 14:01
- You're not wrong, but . . . - cheapLEY, 2017-08-09, 18:42
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Xenos,
2017-08-09, 14:03
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 14:06
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 14:06
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Vortech,
2017-08-09, 14:10
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Xenos,
2017-08-09, 14:14
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Vortech,
2017-08-09, 14:25
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Vortech,
2017-08-09, 14:25
- justyouropinionman.jpeg - ManKitten, 2017-08-09, 14:27
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 15:16
- justyouropinionman.jpeg - Ragashingo, 2017-08-09, 19:17
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Xenos,
2017-08-09, 14:14
- It's about effort and empathy. -
narcogen,
2017-08-11, 01:33
- +1 - Kermit, 2017-08-11, 08:58
- justyouropinionman.jpeg - General Vagueness, 2017-08-21, 20:42
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Korny,
2017-08-09, 14:01
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Schooly D,
2017-08-10, 07:48
- Gold - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-10, 12:04
- justyouropinionman.jpeg - Korny, 2017-08-10, 12:27
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CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-10, 09:56
- #Cruelwaswrong -
Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:07
- #Cruelwaswrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-10, 10:32
- #Cruelwaswrong -
Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:45
- #Cruelwaswrong - Cody Miller, 2017-08-10, 10:50
- #Cruelwaswrong -
Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:45
- #KornyIsMisleading -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 10:42
- #Cruelwaswrong - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-10, 10:45
- #Codyiswrongyetagain -
Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:56
- #Codyiswrongyetagain - Cody Miller, 2017-08-10, 11:09
- #Cruelwaswrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-10, 10:32
- Please add this to the end of every post. Saves time! -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 10:23
- Just read that again. My apologies -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 12:00
- Just read that again. My apologies - Cody Miller, 2017-08-10, 12:43
- Just read that again. My apologies -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 12:00
- #Cruelwaswrong -
Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:07
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:57
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Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:55
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:41
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-09, 13:19
- Mostly the third, but 100% accurate. - Funkmon, 2017-08-09, 23:34
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - narcogen, 2017-08-11, 01:25
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Malagate,
2017-08-09, 13:15
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Harmanimus, 2017-08-09, 13:59
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:03
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 12:59
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-09, 14:34
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 15:14
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Ragashingo, 2017-08-09, 19:04
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 15:14
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 12:49
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - General Vagueness, 2017-08-23, 13:04
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 12:25
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
ManKitten,
2017-08-09, 13:21
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:40
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 14:10
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - stabbim, 2017-08-10, 10:03
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 14:10
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:40
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Malagate,
2017-08-09, 13:27
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:48
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - ManKitten, 2017-08-09, 13:51
- Your failure in presentation ... -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 14:19
- Your failure in presentation ... - Ragashingo, 2017-08-09, 14:43
- Point already made, but you're being stubborn, so... - Claude Errera, 2017-08-09, 16:47
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
cheapLEY,
2017-08-09, 18:46
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 22:29
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 23:41
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 22:29
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:48
- Yes. That does not mean I will like the game when they do. - Vortech, 2017-08-09, 13:52
- Yes. Also no. -
ZackDark,
2017-08-09, 14:38
- Yes. Also no. - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 15:08
- Yes. Also no. -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-09, 16:02
- Yes. Also no. - Claude Errera, 2017-08-09, 16:49
- yes. See also HZD. -
Kermit,
2017-08-09, 14:52
- yes. See also HZD. - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 15:13
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - DEEP_NNN, 2017-08-09, 16:04
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - INSANEdrive, 2017-08-09, 16:26
- Just one thing: - cheapLEY, 2017-08-09, 18:38
- I hate surprises. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-09, 23:25
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:39
- I hate surprises. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- I hate surprises. - Funkmon, 2017-08-09, 23:43
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- I hate surprises. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- Was the Flood a suprise? -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 10:07
- Yes. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 10:49
- Yes. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 11:07
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 11:20
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 12:42
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Claude Errera,
2017-08-10, 15:52
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 18:25
- Words is hard. XD - INSANEdrive, 2017-08-10, 18:29
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 18:25
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Claude Errera,
2017-08-10, 15:52
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 12:42
- Yes. - Vortech, 2017-08-16, 07:55
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 11:20
- Yes. - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-10, 11:58
- Yes. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 11:07
- Yes. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 10:49
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:39
- I do, but I'm also not normal, right? - Kahzgul, 2017-08-10, 16:46
- This game definitely surprises... - Korny, 2017-08-10, 22:57
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
cheapLEY,
2017-08-17, 19:32
- Hellblade really feels like an important game for the medium - Korny, 2017-08-18, 12:19
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
General Vagueness,
2017-08-23, 13:01
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 14:48
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? -
ZackDark,
2017-08-23, 15:51
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 18:18
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
General Vagueness,
2017-08-25, 21:04
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-25, 22:59
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* - General Vagueness, 2017-08-26, 15:21
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-25, 22:59
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
General Vagueness,
2017-08-25, 21:04
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 18:18
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? -
ZackDark,
2017-08-23, 15:51
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 14:48