Do we really want games to surprise us? (Gaming)
by cheapLEY 
, Wednesday, August 09, 2017, 18:46 (2663 days ago) @ Malagate
I only wish more devs would follow suit and innovate. But, y'know, everybody wants dat guaranteed AAA cashmoney.
I'm not sure exactly where I stand on the argument, but that right there is where I lean towards "most games aren't art." If the primary motivation of a game is to be a viable product that makes tons of money, it doesn't really seem like art, which should exist for its own sake.
That's not saying games aren't artful, but that's not the same thing as being art.
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- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 11:47
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- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 12:21
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Ragashingo,
2017-08-09, 12:24
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 12:25
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
ManKitten,
2017-08-09, 12:33
- ^ this - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-09, 14:28
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - MacAddictXIV, 2017-08-09, 12:43
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ManKitten,
2017-08-09, 12:33
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 12:43
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 12:49
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 12:59
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:03
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Malagate,
2017-08-09, 13:15
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2017-08-09, 13:41
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Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:55
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2017-08-09, 13:57
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Korny,
2017-08-09, 14:01
- You're not wrong, but . . . - cheapLEY, 2017-08-09, 18:42
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Xenos,
2017-08-09, 14:03
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2017-08-09, 14:06
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2017-08-09, 14:06
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2017-08-09, 14:10
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2017-08-09, 14:14
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Vortech,
2017-08-09, 14:25
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Vortech,
2017-08-09, 14:25
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 15:16
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Xenos,
2017-08-09, 14:14
- It's about effort and empathy. -
narcogen,
2017-08-11, 01:33
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2017-08-09, 14:01
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2017-08-10, 07:48
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2017-08-10, 12:04
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CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-10, 09:56
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Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:07
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CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-10, 10:32
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Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:45
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Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:45
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 10:42
- #Cruelwaswrong - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-10, 10:45
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Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:56
- #Codyiswrongyetagain - Cody Miller, 2017-08-10, 11:09
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CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-10, 10:32
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Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 10:23
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Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 12:00
- Just read that again. My apologies - Cody Miller, 2017-08-10, 12:43
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Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 12:00
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Korny,
2017-08-10, 10:07
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:57
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Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:55
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Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:41
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-09, 13:19
- Mostly the third, but 100% accurate. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-09, 23:34
- Mostly the third, but 100% accurate.
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - narcogen, 2017-08-11, 01:25
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Malagate,
2017-08-09, 13:15
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Harmanimus, 2017-08-09, 13:59
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:03
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 12:59
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-09, 14:34
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 15:14
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Ragashingo, 2017-08-09, 19:04
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 15:14
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 12:49
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - General Vagueness, 2017-08-23, 13:04
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 12:25
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
ManKitten,
2017-08-09, 13:21
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:40
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 14:10
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - stabbim, 2017-08-10, 10:03
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 14:10
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-09, 13:40
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Malagate,
2017-08-09, 13:27
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:48
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - ManKitten, 2017-08-09, 13:51
- Your failure in presentation ... -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 14:19
- Your failure in presentation ... - Ragashingo, 2017-08-09, 14:43
- Point already made, but you're being stubborn, so... - Claude Errera, 2017-08-09, 16:47
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
cheapLEY,
2017-08-09, 18:46
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 22:29
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 23:41
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-09, 22:29
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 13:48
- Yes. That does not mean I will like the game when they do. -
Vortech,
2017-08-09, 13:52
- Yes. Also no. -
ZackDark,
2017-08-09, 14:38
- Yes. Also no. - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 15:08
- Yes. Also no. -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-09, 16:02
- Yes. Also no. - Claude Errera, 2017-08-09, 16:49
- yes. See also HZD. -
Kermit,
2017-08-09, 14:52
- yes. See also HZD. - Cody Miller, 2017-08-09, 15:13
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - DEEP_NNN, 2017-08-09, 16:04
- Do we really want games to surprise us? - INSANEdrive, 2017-08-09, 16:26
- Just one thing: - cheapLEY, 2017-08-09, 18:38
- I hate surprises. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-09, 23:25
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:39
- I hate surprises. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- I hate surprises. - Funkmon, 2017-08-09, 23:43
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- I hate surprises. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-09, 23:42
- Was the Flood a suprise? -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-10, 10:07
- Yes. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 10:49
- Yes. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 11:07
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 11:20
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 12:42
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Claude Errera,
2017-08-10, 15:52
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 18:25
- Words is hard. XD -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-10, 18:29
- Words is hard. XD
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 18:25
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Claude Errera,
2017-08-10, 15:52
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 12:42
- Yes. - Vortech, 2017-08-16, 07:55
- Sounds like you did think to try them. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 11:20
- Yes. - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-10, 11:58
- Yes. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-10, 11:07
- Yes. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-10, 10:49
- I hate surprises. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-09, 23:39
- I do, but I'm also not normal, right? - Kahzgul, 2017-08-10, 16:46
- This game definitely surprises... - Korny, 2017-08-10, 22:57
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
cheapLEY,
2017-08-17, 19:32
- Hellblade really feels like an important game for the medium - Korny, 2017-08-18, 12:19
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
General Vagueness,
2017-08-23, 13:01
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 14:48
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? -
ZackDark,
2017-08-23, 15:51
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 18:18
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
General Vagueness,
2017-08-25, 21:04
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-25, 22:59
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* - General Vagueness, 2017-08-26, 15:21
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-25, 22:59
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
General Vagueness,
2017-08-25, 21:04
- Have you ever come across the permadeath? *Spoilers* -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 18:18
- Have you ever come across the permadeath?
- Do we really want games to surprise us? -
Korny,
2017-08-23, 14:48