Too Big to Fail (Gaming)
In retrospect, I've softened my stance on this because I guess you could count emergent phenomenon arising from hardware errors (such as floating point rounding) as being legitimately emergent.
Floating point rounding isn't a hardware error, it's a known mathematical error implemented in hardware. While it sometimes differs by processor (i.e. when the floating point hardware isn't using IEEE standard behavior), it's typically a deterministic element, and one that a programmer can usually know the behavior of.
Regardless, you're playing with semantics. Nobody talking about "emergent gameplay" is talking about the logical possibility space of a bunch of code. They're talking about player execution versus what appears to have been design intention, and things like that. Maybe you don't want to partake in a discussion which refers to such things as "emergent gameplay", but then you're just insisting on speaking another language when it's obvious what people mean by their words.
At any rate, as far as things like minecraft are concerned, I feel like you're placing too much emphasis on the end post. The picture that people generate of some thing in minecraft isn't what people think of at interesting in and of itself; it's that someone generated said picture in minecraft. (And more broadly speaking, there's a heck of a lot more to minecraft than those activities. To suggest that it's only significant insofar as it's a clunky 3D CAD program is bizarre.)
Complete thread:
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 18:20
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-05, 18:27
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. - uberfoop, 2016-04-05, 20:54
- Too Big to Fail -
Kermit,
2016-04-05, 18:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 19:26
- Too Big to Fail -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:24
- Your view of GAMING is insane. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 22:30
- No kidding -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Calculations... -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:29
- The "Plasma Car" is probably faster! *NM* - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 02:50
- Calculations... - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 09:41
- Calculations... -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:29
- No kidding -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Too Big to Fail - Revenant1988, 2016-04-05, 22:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-05, 22:50
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:52
- Too Big to Fail - cheapLEY, 2016-04-05, 22:56
- You obviously have never played Minecraft in depth - ZackDark, 2016-04-05, 23:03
- Game studies to the rescuuuuueeeeeeee - electricpirate, 2016-04-06, 01:16
- Why paint on black velvet if you can paint on canvas? - Pyromancy, 2016-04-06, 02:21
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:22
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:25
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:35
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:38
- You can't eat dinner off of LEGOs??? -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 02:52
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 13:31
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 14:13
- You're right. - Claude Errera, 2016-04-06, 16:00
- That toilet looks impossible to clean! -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 18:02
- This is why you pee in the sink. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 19:57
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 14:13
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 13:31
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 03:31
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 14:07
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- I'll watch the show again and report back. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:02
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 14:07
- You can't make automobiles just with woodworking - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 09:56
- Minecraft =/= CAD - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-06, 14:49
- You can't eat dinner off of LEGOs??? -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 02:52
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:38
- BS - Blackt1g3r, 2016-04-06, 14:11
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Schedonnardus,
2016-04-06, 18:19
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:36
- Minecraft =/= CAD - Mid7night, 2016-04-06, 21:16
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:36
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:35
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:25
- Too Big to Fail -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 23:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 23:15
- Yeah, Claude was right... cause of the HBO technicality... - Ragashingo, 2016-04-05, 23:53
- Too Big to Fail -
uberfoop,
2016-04-06, 01:37
- Too float to Fail - dogcow, 2016-04-06, 13:53
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 23:15
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:52
- Too Big to Fail -
slycrel,
2016-04-06, 12:47
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 13:44
- I.... have no words... =) - slycrel, 2016-04-06, 13:48
- Too Big to Fail -
dogcow,
2016-04-06, 14:01
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:14
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:19
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:28
- Too Big to Fail -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 14:37
- Too Big to Fail - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 14:55
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:58
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:03
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:28
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:41
- Too Big to Fail - MacAddictXIV, 2016-04-06, 15:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:41
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:28
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:03
- Too Big to Fail -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 14:37
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:28
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:19
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:14
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Too Big to Fail -
Korny,
2016-04-06, 14:10
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:17
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:18
- Too Big to Fail - Korny, 2016-04-06, 14:25
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 16:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:54
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 17:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:10
- Too Big to Fail - uberfoop, 2016-04-06, 17:15
- Sounds like april fools 2017 has a theme. ;) -
slycrel,
2016-04-06, 17:20
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2016-04-06, 17:25
- Sounds like april fools 2017 has a theme. ;) -
Kermit,
2016-04-06, 17:32
- Avril -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 18:34
- Can't work. I'm the only one who likes her. :( - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 19:57
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:38
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:39
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:44
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 19:54
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:56
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 19:59
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:56
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 19:54
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:44
- No, no, no. -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 22:47
- Soooo, My Little Pony? - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 23:16
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:39
- Avril -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 18:34
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:10
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 01:02
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-07, 01:23
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 04:12
- Good Cody, Bad Cody - Cody Miller, 2016-04-07, 12:17
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 04:12
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-07, 01:23
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 17:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:54
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:18
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:17
- Portal == Narbacular Drop 2. - dogcow, 2016-04-06, 13:47
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 13:44
- Your view of GAMING is insane. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 22:30
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:24
- Uh, what? - Kahzgul, 2016-04-06, 22:29
- Too Big to Fail -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 19:26
- Played the demo, not impressed/VERY impressed -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 21:36
- Played the demo, not impressed/VERY impressed - Xenos, 2016-04-06, 13:00
- Even if it's true, I'm fine with it. - Funkmon, 2016-04-05, 22:07
- 550 million in the first month -
Durandal,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- 550 million in the first month -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Yep. Sounds cool. - Ragashingo, 2016-04-05, 23:10
- 550 million in the first month - narcogen, 2016-04-06, 06:39
- Can we please stop using the $500 million figure -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 13:05
- Can we please stop using the $500 million figure - Durandal, 2016-04-06, 14:22
- 550 million in the first month -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Square probably needed to stop making FF games long ago -
Avateur,
2016-04-05, 23:10
- Square probably needed to stop making FF games long ago - Cody Miller, 2016-04-05, 23:19
- Square Enix gonna Square Enix (but it's not just them) -
someotherguy,
2016-04-06, 15:48
- Square Enix gonna Square Enix (but it's not just them) - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 15:55
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 16:45
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:51
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 17:27
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... - Xenos, 2016-04-06, 17:31
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 17:27
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:51
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-05, 18:27