Square Enix gonna Square Enix (but it's not just them) (Gaming)
They had the same problem with Tomb Raider and one of the Hitman games. Reviewed well, sold well (in the millions, at least), but weren't making GOTY gamgbusters, so they were considered failures.
It's an almost industry-wide problem at this point, at least in the "AAA" space, and I'd say it's terrible for the industry. Big budget games need to sell an extraordinary number of copies just to cover their costs, let alone be seen as a success, which typically leads to one of two things -
- The game is homogenised, designed by committee and built to apeal to the most focus groups at once leading to a jack of all trades game that does everything but doesn't do any one thing well enough to really resonate with anyone
- Or the game is riddled with microtransactions to try and make up for "poor" sales.
if you're really lucky you get both.
Then you get smaller or indie teams who know their audience, know what they can expect to sell and make a game that caters to that audience and does it well. They won't ship 10 million units, sure, but they don't need to. A great "double-A" example is Demon's Souls. They knew their audience wouldn't be huge and released a smaller run of a game built by a smaller team to appeal to a niche audience. 3 games (and a remake) later, the franchise is doing extremely well.
Meanwhile triple-A development is bloated by extraneous multiplayer modes (because you need multiplayer to appeal to the CoD fans), needlessly powerful graphics engines that take 6 years to develop (and will be replaced in 2), celebrity cameos and licensed music, while enormous dev teams stuff in so much nebulous "content" in the form of collectibles and shallow sidequests just to pad out wishy-washy games to create the illusion of "value for money".
I love videogames as a hobby. I hate videogames as an industry.
Complete thread:
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 18:20
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-05, 18:27
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. - uberfoop, 2016-04-05, 20:54
- Too Big to Fail -
Kermit,
2016-04-05, 18:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 19:26
- Too Big to Fail -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:24
- Your view of GAMING is insane. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 22:30
- No kidding -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Calculations... -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:29
- The "Plasma Car" is probably faster! *NM* - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 02:50
- Calculations... - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 09:41
- Calculations... -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:29
- No kidding -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Too Big to Fail - Revenant1988, 2016-04-05, 22:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-05, 22:50
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:52
- Too Big to Fail - cheapLEY, 2016-04-05, 22:56
- You obviously have never played Minecraft in depth - ZackDark, 2016-04-05, 23:03
- Game studies to the rescuuuuueeeeeeee - electricpirate, 2016-04-06, 01:16
- Why paint on black velvet if you can paint on canvas? - Pyromancy, 2016-04-06, 02:21
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:22
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:25
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:35
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:38
- You can't eat dinner off of LEGOs??? -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 02:52
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 13:31
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 14:13
- You're right. - Claude Errera, 2016-04-06, 16:00
- That toilet looks impossible to clean! -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 18:02
- This is why you pee in the sink. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 19:57
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 14:13
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 13:31
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 03:31
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 14:07
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- I'll watch the show again and report back. - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 16:02
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 14:07
- You can't make automobiles just with woodworking - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 09:56
- Minecraft =/= CAD - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-06, 14:49
- You can't eat dinner off of LEGOs??? -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 02:52
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:38
- BS - Blackt1g3r, 2016-04-06, 14:11
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Schedonnardus,
2016-04-06, 18:19
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:36
- Minecraft =/= CAD - Mid7night, 2016-04-06, 21:16
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:36
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:35
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:25
- Too Big to Fail -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 23:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 23:15
- Yeah, Claude was right... cause of the HBO technicality... - Ragashingo, 2016-04-05, 23:53
- Too Big to Fail -
uberfoop,
2016-04-06, 01:37
- Too float to Fail - dogcow, 2016-04-06, 13:53
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 23:15
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:52
- Too Big to Fail -
slycrel,
2016-04-06, 12:47
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 13:44
- I.... have no words... =) - slycrel, 2016-04-06, 13:48
- Too Big to Fail -
dogcow,
2016-04-06, 14:01
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:14
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:19
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:28
- Too Big to Fail -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 14:37
- Too Big to Fail - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 14:55
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:58
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:03
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:28
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:41
- Too Big to Fail - MacAddictXIV, 2016-04-06, 15:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:41
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:28
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:03
- Too Big to Fail -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 14:37
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:28
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:19
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:14
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Too Big to Fail -
Korny,
2016-04-06, 14:10
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:17
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:18
- Too Big to Fail - Korny, 2016-04-06, 14:25
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 16:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:54
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 17:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:10
- Too Big to Fail - uberfoop, 2016-04-06, 17:15
- Sounds like april fools 2017 has a theme. ;) -
slycrel,
2016-04-06, 17:20
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2016-04-06, 17:25
- Sounds like april fools 2017 has a theme. ;) -
Kermit,
2016-04-06, 17:32
- Avril -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 18:34
- Can't work. I'm the only one who likes her. :( - Funkmon, 2016-04-06, 19:57
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:38
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:39
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:44
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 19:54
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:56
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 19:59
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:56
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 19:54
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:44
- No, no, no. -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 22:47
- Soooo, My Little Pony? - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 23:16
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:39
- Avril -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 18:34
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:10
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 01:02
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-07, 01:23
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 04:12
- Good Cody, Bad Cody - Cody Miller, 2016-04-07, 12:17
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 04:12
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-07, 01:23
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 17:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:54
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:18
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:17
- Portal == Narbacular Drop 2. - dogcow, 2016-04-06, 13:47
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 13:44
- Your view of GAMING is insane. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 22:30
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:24
- Uh, what? - Kahzgul, 2016-04-06, 22:29
- Too Big to Fail -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 19:26
- Played the demo, not impressed/VERY impressed -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 21:36
- Played the demo, not impressed/VERY impressed - Xenos, 2016-04-06, 13:00
- Even if it's true, I'm fine with it. - Funkmon, 2016-04-05, 22:07
- 550 million in the first month -
Durandal,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- 550 million in the first month -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Yep. Sounds cool. - Ragashingo, 2016-04-05, 23:10
- 550 million in the first month - narcogen, 2016-04-06, 06:39
- Can we please stop using the $500 million figure -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 13:05
- Can we please stop using the $500 million figure - Durandal, 2016-04-06, 14:22
- 550 million in the first month -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Square probably needed to stop making FF games long ago -
Avateur,
2016-04-05, 23:10
- Square probably needed to stop making FF games long ago - Cody Miller, 2016-04-05, 23:19
- Square Enix gonna Square Enix (but it's not just them) -
someotherguy,
2016-04-06, 15:48
- Square Enix gonna Square Enix (but it's not just them) - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 15:55
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 16:45
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:51
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 17:27
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... - Xenos, 2016-04-06, 17:31
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 17:27
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:51
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-05, 18:27