Take. A. Joke. (Destiny)
The way I look at it is that many of my favorite things were made by hugely smart, experienced people... and were almost total disasters!
Halo almost didn't have system-link multiplayer... and of course changed from real time tactical to 3rd person open world to FPS...
Halo 2 was a train wreck of a development process that saw the end of the game lopped off.
Tomb Raider 2013 suffered huge development challenges and didn't start to come together for years
Aquaria started as an RPG and, if I read between the lines right, the lead developer nearly committed suicide making it and his artist friend will now no longer work with him because of that.
Toy Story was actually cancelled briefly because Disney, of all companies, didn't know how to make a good animated movie
A Bug's Life was Pixar's Halo 2 in that it very nearly broke people and friendships
The iPhone 4 suffered from the "You're holding it wrong" antenna / signal strength issue
Destiny's engineering, we now know, took some two years longer than Bungie hoped and did cut into gameplay / world development time.
So when someone says they have an easy fix or they could do something better if they had the money I have to be highly skeptical. I think the reality is doing complex things really well is really hard no matter how many people you have or what level of talent you possess, or how much money you can throw at the problem.
Complete thread:
- Bungie GDC panel rundown -
electricpirate,
2015-03-07, 03:23
- They can never get their story straight with the loot cave. -
scarab,
2015-03-07, 06:50
- They can never get their story straight with the loot cave. -
someotherguy,
2015-03-08, 09:46
- in those days you weren't guaranteed drops end strikes - scarab, 2015-03-08, 21:51
- They can never get their story straight with the loot cave. -
someotherguy,
2015-03-08, 09:46
- Also: -
uberfoop,
2015-03-07, 07:10
- Also: - electricpirate, 2015-03-09, 01:23
- 6 Years in the Making - Blackt1g3r, 2015-03-09, 16:06
- Bungie GDC panel rundown -
EffortlessFury,
2015-03-07, 12:23
- Maybe they mean... -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-03-07, 12:25
- That's what I was thinking -
Dagoonite,
2015-03-07, 13:03
- It dropped purples and they were pretty rare in those days -
scarab,
2015-03-07, 13:44
- Maybe it meant actual purples. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-08, 20:32
- yes let's just grasp at straws and make stuff up -
scarab,
2015-03-08, 20:54
- yes let's just grasp at straws and make stuff up -
ZackDark,
2015-03-08, 21:21
- loot cave purples were no less real than any other purples -
scarab,
2015-03-08, 21:47
- loot cave purples were no less real than any other purples -
Robot Chickens,
2015-03-08, 22:39
- loot cave purples were no less real than any other purples - slycrel, 2015-03-09, 02:19
- loot cave purples were no less real than any other purples - Ragashingo, 2015-03-09, 02:31
- irrelevant: decode levels are global, cave dropped at higher -
scarab,
2015-03-09, 04:16
- irrelevant: decode levels are global, cave dropped at higher - Ragashingo, 2015-03-09, 04:28
- Dude - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-09, 14:31
- loot cave purples were no less real than any other purples -
Robot Chickens,
2015-03-08, 22:39
- loot cave purples were no less real than any other purples -
scarab,
2015-03-08, 21:47
- yes let's just grasp at straws and make stuff up -
ZackDark,
2015-03-08, 21:21
- yes let's just grasp at straws and make stuff up -
scarab,
2015-03-08, 20:54
- Maybe it meant actual purples. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-08, 20:32
- It dropped purples and they were pretty rare in those days -
scarab,
2015-03-07, 13:44
- It was a patrol spawn point -
scarab,
2015-03-07, 13:36
- It was a patrol spawn point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-07, 13:45
- It was efficient: tons of blues, a fair number of purples - scarab, 2015-03-07, 14:02
- It was a patrol spawn point -
scarab,
2015-03-07, 14:18
- It was a patrol spawn point -
Claude Errera,
2015-03-07, 21:13
- do you agree with Bungie's statement that high enemies -
scarab,
2015-03-08, 04:54
- It always seemed to me that all enemies had equal drop rates -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-08, 09:11
- "Random drops can kiss my ass, and I avoid reliance on them" -
yakaman,
2015-03-09, 14:40
- +1 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-09, 14:42
- Compared to what, though? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-09, 14:56
- Compared to what, though? -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-09, 19:54
- But Gjallarhorn! -
dogcow,
2015-03-09, 20:09
- false dichotomy - scarab, 2015-03-10, 04:53
- But Gjallarhorn! -
dogcow,
2015-03-09, 20:09
- Compared to what, though? -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-09, 19:54
- Loot cave was the most efficient form of patrol -
scarab,
2015-03-09, 15:25
- Loot cave was the most efficient form of patrol -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-09, 15:44
- so had we had high level characters and raids and roc strike -
scarab,
2015-03-09, 15:53
- Exclusion Zone Mission farming - ZackDark, 2015-03-09, 17:31
- so had we had high level characters and raids and roc strike - stabbim, 2015-03-09, 17:32
- so had we had high level characters and raids and roc strike -
scarab,
2015-03-09, 15:53
- Enjoying Destiny -
Kermit,
2015-03-09, 16:21
- Enjoying Destiny - Up North 65, 2015-03-09, 21:01
- Loot cave was the most efficient form of patrol -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-09, 15:44
- Compared to what, though? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-09, 14:56
- +1 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-09, 14:42
- "Random drops can kiss my ass, and I avoid reliance on them" -
yakaman,
2015-03-09, 14:40
- do you agree with Bungie's statement that high enemies -
Claude Errera,
2015-03-08, 16:57
- do you agree with Bungie's statement that high enemies -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-09, 02:45
- Cut It Out. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-09, 03:08
- Take. A. Joke. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-09, 03:56
- Take. A. Joke. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-09, 04:16
- Take. A. Joke. -
stabbim,
2015-03-09, 12:41
- What effort? -
someotherguy,
2015-03-09, 14:08
- What effort? - Ragashingo, 2015-03-09, 14:26
- Take. A. Joke. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-09, 14:17
- Take. A. Joke. - stabbim, 2015-03-09, 17:41
- What effort? -
someotherguy,
2015-03-09, 14:08
- Take. A. Joke. -
stabbim,
2015-03-09, 12:41
- Take. A. Joke. -
Dagoonite,
2015-03-09, 04:28
- Take. A. Joke. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-09, 04:55
- Take. A. Joke. - Kermit, 2015-03-09, 09:55
- Take. A. Joke. -
someotherguy,
2015-03-09, 14:16
- Take. A. Joke. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-09, 16:14
- Take. A. Joke. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-09, 16:51
- Take. A. Joke. -
stabbim,
2015-03-09, 17:43
- That's not a joke. That's important information. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-09, 17:47
- Take. A. Joke. - Ragashingo, 2015-03-09, 17:51
- Take. A. Joke. -
stabbim,
2015-03-09, 17:43
- Take. A. Joke. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-09, 16:51
- Take. A. Joke. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-09, 16:14
- Take. A. Joke. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-09, 04:55
- Take. A. Joke. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-09, 04:16
- Take. A. Joke. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-09, 03:56
- Cut It Out. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-09, 03:08
- do you agree with Bungie's statement that high enemies -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-09, 02:45
- It always seemed to me that all enemies had equal drop rates -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-08, 09:11
- do you agree with Bungie's statement that high enemies -
scarab,
2015-03-08, 04:54
- Keep in mind... - Kahzgul, 2015-03-09, 00:31
- It was a patrol spawn point -
Claude Errera,
2015-03-07, 21:13
- It was a patrol spawn point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-07, 13:45
- That's what I was thinking -
Dagoonite,
2015-03-07, 13:03
- Other currency -
electricpirate,
2015-03-09, 00:43
- the other currencies were weekly capped, cave was not -
scarab,
2015-03-09, 04:25
- so it's a false dichotomy to say cave vs others - scarab, 2015-03-09, 04:28
- the other currencies were weekly capped, cave was not -
scarab,
2015-03-09, 04:25
- Bungie GDC panel rundown - Cody Miller, 2015-03-09, 05:12
- Maybe they mean... -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-03-07, 12:25
- One full GDC panel -
Xenos,
2015-03-08, 01:51
- One full GDC panel -
Kermit,
2015-03-08, 13:25
- One full GDC panel - Xenos, 2015-03-08, 17:21
- One full GDC panel -
Kermit,
2015-03-08, 13:25
- Months later: Still arguing about the frackin lootcave. -
Revenant1988,
2015-03-09, 11:07
- Bungie brought it up again and claimed low level enemies - scarab, 2015-03-09, 15:40
- They can never get their story straight with the loot cave. -
scarab,
2015-03-07, 06:50