
Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance (Destiny)
First off. Let me state that I strongly feel that PvP and PvE should be completely divorced from each other. That way they can balance the weapons individually.
I'm a huge fan of the Halo Reach/4 style of loadouts. I think they accomplished the tasks at hand extremely well. You were given a primary/secondary and then you picked up other power weapons as the game went on. The difference was that the secondary was essentially another primary weapon, not a one hit kill weapon.
You could have a similar setup where the focus is taken completely away from the shotgun/sniper/fusion setup we are currently dealing with.
I would suggest that in PvP only we are able to choose a primary and a secondary from our Primaries + sidearms. Combine all of the OHK weapons into a power weapons category.
This would completely shift the gameplay back to being focused on weapon skill rather then just getting that one shot that dominates everything else.
Now with secondary/heavies being combined into one slot. You make it where the ammo is even more scarce. Let special/heavy drop once or twice per match. Give each weapon the max of one magazine no exception. Snipers/Shotguns/Fusions could get buffed to a base of 5-6 rounds of ammo. Heavies would get 2 rockets max, and one magazine of MG. The kicker on this is you then have to choose what you want when that ammo drops. You get one or the other only, never both at the same time.
The main issue I see with this is Supers would be extremely hard to shut down (maybe that's a good thing?)
I agree with your assessment of the ADS. primaries should go much faster then secondaries and heavys.
Complete thread:
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-20, 18:28
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 18:36
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-20, 19:07
- *AHEM* - CyberKN, 2016-06-20, 19:21
- Makes me think of a "less than juggler" modifier for PvP...
- dogcow, 2016-06-20, 19:25
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:50
- +1 to portions of this. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 19:37
- +1 to portions of this. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 20:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-06-20, 19:41
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:48
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Hey, that's my idea -
BeardFade,
2016-06-20, 20:23
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:28
- I'd love to see this type of gameplay - unoudid, 2016-06-21, 15:23
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:28
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- +1 to portions of this. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 19:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:17
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 00:49
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-21, 00:52
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:14
- If only every game were more like Mass Effect 3 :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-27, 16:03
- If only every game were more like Mass Effect 3 :)
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 00:49
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 20:25
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:29
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 16:58
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 17:11
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:41
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 00:17
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 00:34
- Jooooooiiiiiin Uuuuuuuuusssssss
- someotherguy, 2016-06-22, 09:12
- It's a Trap!!
- unoudid, 2016-06-22, 10:56
- It's a Trap!!
- Jooooooiiiiiin Uuuuuuuuusssssss
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 00:34
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 00:17
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:41
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 21:13
- Agreed.
- Ragashingo, 2016-06-21, 22:04
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 23:55
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 23:55
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 13:01
- +1 sniper zoom
- dogcow, 2016-06-22, 13:21
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 13:23
- 'My favored weapons are fine, your's are OP'
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 13:42
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:01
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 14:34
- I think we both know what this means... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:48
- I'm still with Cap.
- Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 14:49
- Dammit... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Dammit... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:07
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Funkmon,
2016-06-22, 15:25
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:29
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Korny,
2016-06-22, 15:32
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:52
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
unoudid,
2016-06-22, 15:35
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:38
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 15:36
- "This isn't bright enough."
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 15:59
- They just blew their super thanks to my secret handshake
- unoudid, 2016-06-22, 16:05
- So many things. All of the things. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:22
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Funkmon,
2016-06-22, 15:25
- Dammit... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:07
- I think we both know what this means... - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:43
- I'm still with Cap.
- I think we both know what this means... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:48
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 14:34
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 14:47
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:06
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:09
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:13
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:16
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:20
- No Range Upgrade! - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:25
- Gameplay footage: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:21
- And that is why you never use "Shatter" for the Nova Bomb...
- Korny, 2016-06-22, 15:25
- And that is why you never use "Shatter" for the Nova Bomb...
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:20
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:16
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:13
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:09
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
unoudid,
2016-06-22, 15:23
- My top 3 - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:05
- Huh. Interesting. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:32
- Relic == Spark
- Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:46
- Relic == Spark - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:47
- Relic == Spark
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:06
- 'My favored weapons are fine, your's are OP'
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 14:45
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 14:49
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 14:51
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 15:20
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 14:51
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 14:49
- +1 sniper zoom
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 13:31
- Agreed.
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 17:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 16:58
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 06:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 18:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 20:07
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 21:21
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 18:26
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:45
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 18:26
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 22:09
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:12
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-23, 03:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:40
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-23, 03:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:12
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 21:21
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 20:07
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 18:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:29
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
squidnh3,
2016-06-21, 01:04
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:33
- Your numbers are off by quite a bit. -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 01:07
- Your numbers are off by quite a bit. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:44
- Suggestions -
Durandal,
2016-06-21, 14:21
- Suggestions -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 17:00
- Skill = TTK -
Durandal,
2016-06-22, 13:19
- Skill = TTK - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:35
- Skill = TTK -
Durandal,
2016-06-22, 13:19
- Suggestions -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 17:00
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 18:36