
Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance (Destiny)
This really sounds like your whole argument to this point sounds like "well this scenario is clearly an idiot playing." Let's assume the player in question is not an idiot and is pretty good at the game; they just don't happen to have any special ammo at this exact moment. They have made the best of it and outmaneuvered an enemy player, catching them looking the wrong way.
I don't believe the weapon balance is anywhere near as broken as you do. Do I think there problems? Sure. Sucks ballsack level problems? Absolutely not. Because of this, I'm unable to agree that someone who attempts to fight within shotgun range when they have no special ammo has outmaneuvered their enemy. They may be a good player, but in that encounter they made a serious tactical mistake and rightly paid the price for it. (Happens to me all the time!)
...if you don't have special ammo and your enemy does, *what do you do to fight back?* ...Do you run away and hope your super or grenade comes back up before the other team finds you...
Absolutely! I'm at the top of my games and the Crucible is far less frustrating for me when I allow myself to disengage from unfavorable encounters.
Complete thread:
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-20, 18:28
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 18:36
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-20, 19:07
- *AHEM* - CyberKN, 2016-06-20, 19:21
- Makes me think of a "less than juggler" modifier for PvP...
- dogcow, 2016-06-20, 19:25
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:50
- +1 to portions of this. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 19:37
- +1 to portions of this. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 20:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-06-20, 19:41
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:48
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Hey, that's my idea -
BeardFade,
2016-06-20, 20:23
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:28
- I'd love to see this type of gameplay - unoudid, 2016-06-21, 15:23
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:28
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- +1 to portions of this. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 19:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:17
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 00:49
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-21, 00:52
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:14
- If only every game were more like Mass Effect 3 :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-27, 16:03
- If only every game were more like Mass Effect 3 :)
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 00:49
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 20:25
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:29
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 16:58
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 17:11
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:41
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 00:17
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 00:34
- Jooooooiiiiiin Uuuuuuuuusssssss
- someotherguy, 2016-06-22, 09:12
- It's a Trap!!
- unoudid, 2016-06-22, 10:56
- It's a Trap!!
- Jooooooiiiiiin Uuuuuuuuusssssss
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 00:34
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 00:17
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:41
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 21:13
- Agreed.
- Ragashingo, 2016-06-21, 22:04
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 23:55
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 23:55
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 13:01
- +1 sniper zoom
- dogcow, 2016-06-22, 13:21
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 13:23
- 'My favored weapons are fine, your's are OP'
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 13:42
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:01
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 14:34
- I think we both know what this means... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:48
- I'm still with Cap.
- Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 14:49
- Dammit... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Dammit... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:07
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Funkmon,
2016-06-22, 15:25
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:29
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Korny,
2016-06-22, 15:32
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:52
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
unoudid,
2016-06-22, 15:35
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:38
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 15:36
- "This isn't bright enough."
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 15:59
- They just blew their super thanks to my secret handshake
- unoudid, 2016-06-22, 16:05
- So many things. All of the things. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:22
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Funkmon,
2016-06-22, 15:25
- Dammit... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:07
- I think we both know what this means... - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:43
- I'm still with Cap.
- I think we both know what this means... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:48
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 14:34
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 14:47
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:06
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:09
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:13
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:16
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:20
- No Range Upgrade! - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:25
- Gameplay footage: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:21
- And that is why you never use "Shatter" for the Nova Bomb...
- Korny, 2016-06-22, 15:25
- And that is why you never use "Shatter" for the Nova Bomb...
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:20
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:16
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:13
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:09
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
unoudid,
2016-06-22, 15:23
- My top 3 - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:05
- Huh. Interesting. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:32
- Relic == Spark
- Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:46
- Relic == Spark - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:47
- Relic == Spark
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:06
- 'My favored weapons are fine, your's are OP'
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 14:45
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 14:49
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 14:51
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 15:20
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 14:51
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 14:49
- +1 sniper zoom
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 13:31
- Agreed.
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 17:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 16:58
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 06:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 18:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 20:07
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 21:21
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 18:26
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:45
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 18:26
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 22:09
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:12
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-23, 03:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:40
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-23, 03:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:12
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 21:21
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 20:07
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 18:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:29
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
squidnh3,
2016-06-21, 01:04
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:33
- Your numbers are off by quite a bit. -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 01:07
- Your numbers are off by quite a bit. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:44
- Suggestions -
Durandal,
2016-06-21, 14:21
- Suggestions -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 17:00
- Skill = TTK -
Durandal,
2016-06-22, 13:19
- Skill = TTK - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:35
- Skill = TTK -
Durandal,
2016-06-22, 13:19
- Suggestions -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 17:00
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 18:36