
Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance (Destiny)
These discussions always make me feel a little bit like I am playing a different game from everyone else. I agree with handling improvements on primary weapons. I agree that something should be done for the ammo economy (I like the overall Primary > Secondary > Heavy drop discussed elsewhere) and haven't really noticed current scarcity of special being a problem in maining a special weapon on the occasion.
However, I don't feel like I get OHK by specials everytime I come against them. Outliers (quick/no-scope from snipers mostly) are irritating to be sure, and there are ways to counter that (slower/delayed scope-in for snipers or no precision when hipfired, as two examples) with design changes. However, in most encounters where I lose to a special weapon it is because I made a bad play. Such as sticking my head out into active sniper lanes. Or trying to close with an enemy around a corner who is unsurprisingly packing a shotgun. Or being in the open/traveling a predictable path and I get caught by a Fusion rifle.
However, if I'm running a primary weapon I tend to avoid the niche situations where the Special weapons are designed to excell. I don't have much issue with them and I usually win those engagements by playing to the strengths of my weapons and the design of the map. And often enough if someone is poor in their aim with any of the OHK Specials even when they have advantage in positioning I often find one can hold their own. A missed sniper shot or shotgun blast that only partially connects might leave me an easy mop up, but I win a fair number of the engagements. At least fair enough I don't feel they break the game. And often enough when I just don't quite land enough splinters of a Fusion Rifle burst I know it's my fault when I get finished off by a primary.
Complete thread:
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-20, 18:28
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 18:36
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-20, 19:07
- *AHEM* - CyberKN, 2016-06-20, 19:21
- Makes me think of a "less than juggler" modifier for PvP...
- dogcow, 2016-06-20, 19:25
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:50
- +1 to portions of this. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 19:37
- +1 to portions of this. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 20:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-06-20, 19:41
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:48
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Hey, that's my idea -
BeardFade,
2016-06-20, 20:23
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:28
- I'd love to see this type of gameplay - unoudid, 2016-06-21, 15:23
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:28
- Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 20:45
- +1 to portions of this. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 19:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:17
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 00:49
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-21, 00:52
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:14
- If only every game were more like Mass Effect 3 :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-27, 16:03
- If only every game were more like Mass Effect 3 :)
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 00:49
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 20:25
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:29
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 16:58
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 17:11
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:41
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 00:17
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 00:34
- Jooooooiiiiiin Uuuuuuuuusssssss
- someotherguy, 2016-06-22, 09:12
- It's a Trap!!
- unoudid, 2016-06-22, 10:56
- It's a Trap!!
- Jooooooiiiiiin Uuuuuuuuusssssss
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 00:34
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 00:17
- Man, we should get together sometime -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:41
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 21:13
- Agreed.
- Ragashingo, 2016-06-21, 22:04
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 23:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 23:55
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-21, 23:55
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 13:01
- +1 sniper zoom
- dogcow, 2016-06-22, 13:21
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 13:23
- 'My favored weapons are fine, your's are OP'
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 13:42
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:01
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 14:34
- I think we both know what this means... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:48
- I'm still with Cap.
- Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 14:49
- Dammit... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Dammit... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:07
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Funkmon,
2016-06-22, 15:25
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:29
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Korny,
2016-06-22, 15:32
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:52
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
unoudid,
2016-06-22, 15:35
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:38
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 15:36
- "This isn't bright enough."
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 15:59
- They just blew their super thanks to my secret handshake
- unoudid, 2016-06-22, 16:05
- So many things. All of the things. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:22
- Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter -
Funkmon,
2016-06-22, 15:25
- Dammit... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:07
- I think we both know what this means... - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:43
- I'm still with Cap.
- I think we both know what this means... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 14:48
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 14:34
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 14:47
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:06
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:09
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:13
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:16
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:20
- No Range Upgrade! - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:25
- Gameplay footage: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:21
- And that is why you never use "Shatter" for the Nova Bomb...
- Korny, 2016-06-22, 15:25
- And that is why you never use "Shatter" for the Nova Bomb...
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:20
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:16
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:13
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-22, 15:09
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
unoudid,
2016-06-22, 15:23
- My top 3 - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:05
- Huh. Interesting. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:32
- Relic == Spark
- Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:46
- Relic == Spark - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:47
- Relic == Spark
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 15:06
- 'My favored weapons are fine, your's are OP'
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-22, 14:45
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 14:49
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 14:51
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:08
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 15:20
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 15:03
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 14:51
- Primary weapons vs Special weapons -
dogcow,
2016-06-22, 14:49
- +1 sniper zoom
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 13:31
- Agreed.
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 17:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 16:58
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 06:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 18:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 20:07
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 21:21
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 18:26
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:45
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-23, 18:26
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:11
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 22:09
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:12
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-23, 03:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:40
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-23, 15:46
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 15:37
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-23, 03:38
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-23, 01:12
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-22, 21:21
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 20:07
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Ragashingo,
2016-06-22, 18:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-22, 16:47
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-21, 14:33
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 05:29
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
squidnh3,
2016-06-21, 01:04
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:33
- Your numbers are off by quite a bit. -
electricpirate,
2016-06-21, 01:07
- Your numbers are off by quite a bit. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:44
- Suggestions -
Durandal,
2016-06-21, 14:21
- Suggestions -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 17:00
- Skill = TTK -
Durandal,
2016-06-22, 13:19
- Skill = TTK - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:35
- Skill = TTK -
Durandal,
2016-06-22, 13:19
- Suggestions -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-21, 17:00
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 18:36