Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance (Destiny)

by Claude Errera , Thursday, June 23, 2016, 15:46 (2924 days ago) @ Kahzgul

An enemy with his back to you should never be an unfavorable encounter.

What if the enemy

- Has a sword and uses it to attack behind them?
- Is in the middle of Arc Blade, or uses the area of effect of Hammer of Sol, Nova Bomb, or Fist of Havoc, or the chaining of Stormtrance to strike behind them?

Just being behind someone does not guarantee that you will win.

Okay, I'll grant those two, but again you seem to be really going out of your way to ignore the point I'm trying to make. Here is my more semantically accurate statement:

An enemy without heavy ammo or an active super with his back to you who is also inside the optimal zone of engagement for your primary weapon should never be an unfavorable encounter for you, even if he has special ammo, assuming that you are both of equal skill and have full health and shields with no other players in a position to intervene in the 1v1 engagement which you are initiating, even when your own grenade and melee ability are on cooldown, you have no super, and your only available weapon is a primary weapon (which is, itself, one of the top tier primaries and not some crap green you equipped because your name is Ragashingo and you're intentionally sabotaging the discussion).

I hope that covers it.

lol - I'll concede that in those circumstances, reality (as Bungie has defined it) is not as good as it should be.

And for the 2 encounters a month I experience where all of those conditions are met, I'll tip my hat to Kahzgul and shout "dammit, Bungie, I should have won that!"

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Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-20, 18:28
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 18:36
  - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-20, 19:07
  - *AHEM* - CyberKN, 2016-06-20, 19:21
    - LOL - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 19:30
      - Ok - CyberKN, 2016-06-20, 19:32
        
        Ok - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 19:44
  - Makes me think of a "less than juggler" modifier for PvP... - dogcow, 2016-06-20, 19:25
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 18:50
  - +1 to portions of this. - dogcow, 2016-06-20, 19:37
    - +1 to portions of this. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 20:38
  - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-20, 19:41
    - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 20:45
      - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:48
  - Hey, that's my idea - BeardFade, 2016-06-20, 20:23
    - Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 20:45
      - Hey, that's my idea* Sort of :) - Claude Errera, 2016-06-21, 14:28
        
        I'd love to see this type of gameplay - unoudid, 2016-06-21, 15:23
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 19:17
  - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - electricpirate, 2016-06-21, 00:49
    - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-21, 00:52
    - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:14
      - If only every game were more like Mass Effect 3 :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-27, 16:03
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Harmanimus, 2016-06-20, 20:25
  - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:29
    - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Claude Errera, 2016-06-21, 14:33
      - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 16:58
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Claude Errera, 2016-06-21, 17:11
        
        Man, we should get together sometime - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 23:41
        
        Man, we should get together sometime - Claude Errera, 2016-06-22, 00:17
        
        Man, we should get together sometime - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 00:34
        
        Jooooooiiiiiin Uuuuuuuuusssssss - someotherguy, 2016-06-22, 09:12
        
        It's a Trap!! - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 10:56
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Cody Miller, 2016-06-21, 21:13
        
        Agreed. - Ragashingo, 2016-06-21, 22:04
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 23:47
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Cody Miller, 2016-06-21, 23:55
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:11
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-22, 13:01
        
        +1 sniper zoom - dogcow, 2016-06-22, 13:21
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Claude Errera, 2016-06-22, 13:23
        
        'My favored weapons are fine, your's are OP' - ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 13:42
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-22, 14:01
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Claude Errera, 2016-06-22, 14:34
        
        I think we both know what this means... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-22, 14:48
        
        I'm still with Cap. - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 14:49
        
        Dammit... - Claude Errera, 2016-06-22, 15:03
        
        Dammit... - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:07
        
        Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Funkmon, 2016-06-22, 15:25
        
        Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:29
        
        Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Korny, 2016-06-22, 15:32
        
        Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:52
        
        Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 15:35
        
        Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:38
        
        Where the arguments are made up and the fights don't matter - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 15:36
        
        "This isn't bright enough." - ProbablyLast, 2016-06-22, 15:59
        
        They just blew their super thanks to my secret handshake - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 16:05
        
        So many things. All of the things. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:22
        
        I think we both know what this means... - Robot Chickens, 2016-06-22, 15:43
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 14:47
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Claude Errera, 2016-06-22, 15:06
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:08
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-22, 15:09
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:13
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-22, 15:16
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:20
        
        No Range Upgrade! - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:25
        
        Gameplay footage: - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-22, 15:21
        
        And that is why you never use "Shatter" for the Nova Bomb... - Korny, 2016-06-22, 15:25
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - unoudid, 2016-06-22, 15:23
        
        My top 3 - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:05
        
        Huh. Interesting. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:32
        
        Relic == Spark - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 16:46
        
        Relic == Spark - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:47
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 14:45
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - dogcow, 2016-06-22, 14:49
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 14:51
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - dogcow, 2016-06-22, 15:03
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Cody Miller, 2016-06-22, 15:08
        
        Primary weapons vs Special weapons - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 15:20
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Blackt1g3r, 2016-06-22, 13:31
    - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 06:46
      - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:47
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 18:33
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 20:07
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Claude Errera, 2016-06-22, 21:21
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 01:11
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Harmanimus, 2016-06-23, 18:26
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:45
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Ragashingo, 2016-06-22, 22:09
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 01:12
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Ragashingo, 2016-06-23, 03:38
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 15:37
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Claude Errera, 2016-06-23, 15:46
        
        Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-23, 18:40
- Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - squidnh3, 2016-06-21, 01:04
  - Let's talk PvP Weapon Balance - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:33
- Your numbers are off by quite a bit. - electricpirate, 2016-06-21, 01:07
  - Your numbers are off by quite a bit. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 05:44
- Suggestions - Durandal, 2016-06-21, 14:21
  - Suggestions - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 17:00
    - Skill = TTK - Durandal, 2016-06-22, 13:19
      - Skill = TTK - Kahzgul, 2016-06-22, 16:35

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