Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody
I know it's Levi's opinion, but I'd argue that H3 didn't really pull even some of the bigger parts off. Why did Regret jump the gun? What was Cortana's plan when she stayed behind on High Charity? What's H3 tell us? Doesn't matter, no reason/who cares.
For the record, I enjoy playing H3 for the most part, but a lot of the gameplay and level design just absolutely kills me. And the story itself only gets satisfying near the end of the game. I'd argue that the first 4-5 levels serve just about no purpose.
I also disagree that H4 does the big or small story points well. I've ripped that story to pieces enough over at HBO, no need to carry that over here. :P
Halo 4 gets a few thing right:
- Cortana's echo-y distress call on the opening cutscene with the in half Forward Unto Dawn. Ignoring that it's not the same ship that scene has the right tone… well until Cortana appears and starts displaying a virtual, holographic touch screen for her avatar to swipe around for no reason… Still the audio and visuals up till then are powerful and set a great mood, just one that is quickly tossed aside. :(
- The Librarian telling of Humanity's struggles with the Flood and Forerunner is pretty decent. It had a good mood and would be a highlight of the Halo/Human/Forerunner story if the rest of Halo 4 had supported it better. :(
- Cortana's scene after the scientists are digitalized is very good. It hits home the story point that she is dying and that she doesn't want to be replaced, even by herself. Too bad it's only a short bit of gameplay before we're reminded that the Didact is evil for no reason and has a plan that make no sense. :(
The thing is, I think those three scene are actually some of the best in all of Halo. Bungie was always… very standoffish with the greater fiction of their universe and never really connected with it, or outright attempted to rewrite it as in Reach. Halo 4, despite all its flaws, did attempt to, and in some cases very successfully did, connect to its surrounding fiction. It just dropped the ball in connecting the book Didact to the game Didact so badly that no good points could save it.
Complete thread:
- Gameindustry.biz Pete Parsons interview -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 10:29
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rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 15:35
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Claude Errera,
2013-08-26, 15:53
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rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:12
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Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:16
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rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:32
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Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:46
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Cody Miller,
2013-08-26, 17:52
- The purity argument always annoys me. -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 19:37
- The purity argument always annoys me. - Ragashingo, 2013-08-26, 19:57
- Plenty of PEOPLE -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 20:34
- Plenty of PEOPLE - Xenos, 2013-08-26, 20:37
- Here we go... - General Vagueness, 2013-08-26, 22:00
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SonofMacPhisto,
2013-08-27, 17:19
- +1 - Kermit, 2013-08-27, 19:32
- Post of the week (month?) right here ^^ - Avateur, 2013-08-27, 19:56
- I think this is the best place to post this - serpx, 2013-08-27, 21:10
- Thank you sir! - Mr Daax, 2013-08-27, 21:35
- I think this is the best place to post this -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-28, 12:14
- And Back to Video Games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 14:12
- And Back to Video Games - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-08-28, 15:35
- And Back to Video Games - Captain Spark, 2013-08-28, 16:48
- And Back to Video Games - General Vagueness, 2013-08-31, 10:03
- And Back to Video Games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 14:12
- The purity argument always annoys me. -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 19:37
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-26, 17:52
- Here we go... -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:46
- Here we go... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-08-27, 17:21
- -1 -
Kermit,
2013-08-27, 19:32
- Time to veer wildly off topic - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 20:12
- Wow, worst post of the ever right here ^^ - Avateur, 2013-08-27, 19:57
- -1,000,000,000 and all my respect forever. - Leviathan, 2013-08-27, 20:20
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ZackDark,
2013-08-27, 22:43
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Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:44
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Mr Daax,
2013-08-28, 06:08
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Mr Daax,
2013-08-28, 06:08
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Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:44
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Captain Spark,
2013-08-28, 10:24
- Here we go... - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-08-28, 15:33
- -1 -
Kermit,
2013-08-27, 19:32
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rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:32
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Kermit,
2013-08-26, 16:27
- Here we go... - Risay117, 2013-08-27, 10:01
- These are the kind of threads... -
Leviathan,
2013-08-26, 19:51
- These are the kind of threads... -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-26, 22:08
- These are the kind of threads... -
Leviathan,
2013-08-26, 22:33
- Well said - Xenos, 2013-08-26, 22:35
- These are the kind of threads... - Ragashingo, 2013-08-26, 23:03
- These are the kind of threads... - General Vagueness, 2013-08-31, 08:23
- These are the kind of threads... -
Leviathan,
2013-08-26, 22:33
- These are the kind of threads... -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-26, 22:08
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stabbim,
2013-08-31, 10:34
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Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:16
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rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:12
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Cody Miller,
2013-08-26, 18:31
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Fuertisimo,
2013-08-26, 22:49
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Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 07:06
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Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 07:51
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Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 08:44
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 09:26
- I'm one of "those people". -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 10:02
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 11:16
- I'm one of "those people". -
mnemesis,
2013-08-27, 20:01
- I'm one of "those people". - Captain Spark, 2013-08-28, 05:45
- I'm one of "those people". -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:19
- I'm one of "those people". -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 21:22
- I'm one of "those people". - Cody Miller, 2013-08-28, 08:26
- I'm one of "those people". -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 21:22
- I'm one of "those people". -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-31, 10:00
- I'm one of "those people". - Cody Miller, 2013-08-31, 12:19
- I'm one of "those people". -
mnemesis,
2013-08-27, 20:01
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 11:16
- I'm one of "those people". -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 10:02
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 09:26
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 08:44
- Here we go... - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 10:07
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Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 07:51
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Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 07:06
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Bones,
2013-08-27, 17:46
- Here we go... - NsU Soldier, 2013-08-28, 23:37
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 20:46
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:08
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:39
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:54
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 02:41
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 08:48
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 11:18
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 16:32
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-28, 18:22
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Xenos,
2013-08-28, 18:49
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - Leviathan, 2013-08-28, 22:58
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-28, 18:59
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 23:11
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-28, 23:45
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - breitzen, 2013-08-29, 05:22
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-28, 23:45
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 23:11
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Xenos,
2013-08-28, 18:49
- A gushing love for Halo 3 transcribed. -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 22:51
- Loved reading that, thanks Levi - Xenos, 2013-08-28, 23:09
- Nice. - Ragashingo, 2013-08-28, 23:28
- A gushing love for Halo 3 transcribed. - HawaiianPig, 2013-08-29, 02:03
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-28, 18:22
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 16:32
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 11:18
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - Avateur, 2013-08-28, 18:55
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 08:48
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - HawaiianPig, 2013-08-28, 02:53
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 02:41
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:55
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:01
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:05
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:09
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:14
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games - Xenos, 2013-08-27, 22:20
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 22:18
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:14
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:09
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:05
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 22:03
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-08-28, 00:45
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:01
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 21:57
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:54
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well - Chewbaccawakka, 2013-08-27, 21:47
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:39
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:08
- Here we go... -
Kermit,
2013-08-27, 20:56
- Here we go... - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-08-30, 11:16
- Here we go... - Risay117, 2013-08-27, 10:08
- Here we go... -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-26, 15:53
- Regardless of what happens... -
serpx,
2013-08-27, 20:53
- this - kidtsunami, 2013-08-28, 03:33
- Gameindustry.biz Pete Parsons interview - Oholiab, 2013-08-31, 20:44
- Here we go... -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 15:35