Nice.
I'm not quite as optimistic as you about Truth's end game, but no need to quibble over that when the greater point you made deserves to be emphasized. Halo 3 was a good game with some really good story points. And it and the other Bungie Halos, and unlike Halo 4, told a solid story with very few plot holes or strange character reversals, like Mr. Didact's. They're not the best video game stories ever told, but individually and especially when taken as a whole, they are very good.
I definitely don't view the Halo stories in the same way as say a Hironobu Sakaguchi tale (the classic Final Fantasies). I judge stories usually by what they're meant to do. For Halo: make me feel like a badass saving the world when all hell is breaking loose, or at times, to make me curious and explorative in a mysterious world and culture. Halo 3 added in a perfect amount of touching, emotional connection, that especially worked because we had been with these characters for three games now and were saying goodbye.
I also don't just see Bungie's 'story' in the script - I see it in their art direction, audio, and gameplay. When Halo is at its best, it's when all those things, plus the story, are aligned to create that magic Halo experience. When I've finished shooting an alien in its face, and I look up at some human architecture and think "Wait a minute - I think this might mirror a Forerunner structure I've been in. Wow, That's a nice little nod to the story."
For their intents, I think Bungie usually tells great stories - but that's because those stories are only starting points inside the actual game, the rest is in our imagination, our observations, our speculation, and the choices we make when we ramp a Warthog onto a Scarab and go flying off on fire thinking 'this is so cool'.
Sometimes I think my one complaint with Bungie stories is also my greatest compliment: "I WANTED MORE, DAMNIT!"
Complete thread:
- Gameindustry.biz Pete Parsons interview -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 10:29
- Here we go... -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 15:35
- Here we go... -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-26, 15:53
- Here we go... -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:12
- Here we go... -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:16
- Here we go... -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:32
- Here we go... -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:46
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-26, 17:52
- The purity argument always annoys me. -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 19:37
- The purity argument always annoys me. - Ragashingo, 2013-08-26, 19:57
- Plenty of PEOPLE -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 20:34
- Plenty of PEOPLE - Xenos, 2013-08-26, 20:37
- Here we go... - General Vagueness, 2013-08-26, 22:00
- I think this is the best place to post this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-08-27, 17:19
- +1 - Kermit, 2013-08-27, 19:32
- Post of the week (month?) right here ^^ - Avateur, 2013-08-27, 19:56
- I think this is the best place to post this - serpx, 2013-08-27, 21:10
- Thank you sir! - Mr Daax, 2013-08-27, 21:35
- I think this is the best place to post this -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-28, 12:14
- And Back to Video Games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 14:12
- And Back to Video Games - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-08-28, 15:35
- And Back to Video Games - Captain Spark, 2013-08-28, 16:48
- And Back to Video Games - General Vagueness, 2013-08-31, 10:03
- And Back to Video Games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 14:12
- The purity argument always annoys me. -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 19:37
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-26, 17:52
- Here we go... -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:46
- Here we go... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-08-27, 17:21
- -1 -
Kermit,
2013-08-27, 19:32
- Time to veer wildly off topic - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 20:12
- Wow, worst post of the ever right here ^^ - Avateur, 2013-08-27, 19:57
- -1,000,000,000 and all my respect forever. - Leviathan, 2013-08-27, 20:20
- Here we go... -
ZackDark,
2013-08-27, 22:43
- Here we go... -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:44
- Here we go... -
Mr Daax,
2013-08-28, 06:08
- Here we go... - Xenos, 2013-08-28, 08:16
- Here we go... -
Mr Daax,
2013-08-28, 06:08
- Here we go... -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:44
- Here we go... -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-28, 10:24
- Here we go... - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-08-28, 15:33
- -1 -
Kermit,
2013-08-27, 19:32
- Here we go... -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:32
- Here we go... -
Kermit,
2013-08-26, 16:27
- Here we go... - Risay117, 2013-08-27, 10:01
- These are the kind of threads... -
Leviathan,
2013-08-26, 19:51
- These are the kind of threads... -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-26, 22:08
- These are the kind of threads... -
Leviathan,
2013-08-26, 22:33
- Well said - Xenos, 2013-08-26, 22:35
- These are the kind of threads... - Ragashingo, 2013-08-26, 23:03
- These are the kind of threads... - General Vagueness, 2013-08-31, 08:23
- These are the kind of threads... -
Leviathan,
2013-08-26, 22:33
- These are the kind of threads... -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-26, 22:08
- having worked in advertising - kidtsunami, 2013-08-27, 01:04
- Here we go... -
stabbim,
2013-08-31, 10:34
- Here we go... - General Vagueness, 2013-08-31, 11:17
- Here we go... -
Xenos,
2013-08-26, 16:16
- Here we go... - INSANEdrive, 2013-08-26, 16:43
- Here we go... -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 16:12
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-26, 18:31
- Here we go... - INSANEdrive, 2013-08-26, 19:09
- Here we go... - Ragashingo, 2013-08-26, 19:52
- Here we go... -
Fuertisimo,
2013-08-26, 22:49
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 07:06
- Here we go... -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 07:51
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 08:44
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 09:26
- I'm one of "those people". -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 10:02
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 11:16
- I'm one of "those people". -
mnemesis,
2013-08-27, 20:01
- I'm one of "those people". - Captain Spark, 2013-08-28, 05:45
- I'm one of "those people". -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:19
- I'm one of "those people". -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 21:22
- I'm one of "those people". - Cody Miller, 2013-08-28, 08:26
- I'm one of "those people". -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 21:22
- I'm one of "those people". -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-31, 10:00
- I'm one of "those people". - Cody Miller, 2013-08-31, 12:19
- I'm one of "those people". -
mnemesis,
2013-08-27, 20:01
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 11:16
- I'm one of "those people". -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 10:02
- I'm one of "those people". -
Captain Spark,
2013-08-27, 09:26
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 08:44
- Here we go... - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 10:07
- Here we go... -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-27, 07:51
- Here we go... -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 07:06
- Here we go... -
Bones,
2013-08-27, 17:46
- Here we go... - NsU Soldier, 2013-08-28, 23:37
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 20:46
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:08
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:39
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:54
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 02:41
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 08:48
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 11:18
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 16:32
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-28, 18:22
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Xenos,
2013-08-28, 18:49
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - Leviathan, 2013-08-28, 22:58
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-28, 18:59
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 23:11
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-28, 23:45
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - breitzen, 2013-08-29, 05:22
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-28, 23:45
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 23:11
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Xenos,
2013-08-28, 18:49
- A gushing love for Halo 3 transcribed. -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 22:51
- Loved reading that, thanks Levi - Xenos, 2013-08-28, 23:09
- Nice. -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-28, 23:28
- Nice. -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 23:53
- Nice. - Ragashingo, 2013-08-29, 00:15
- Nice. -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 23:53
- A gushing love for Halo 3 transcribed. - HawaiianPig, 2013-08-29, 02:03
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-28, 18:22
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 16:32
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Leviathan,
2013-08-28, 11:18
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - Avateur, 2013-08-28, 18:55
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-28, 08:48
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody - HawaiianPig, 2013-08-28, 02:53
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
HawaiianPig,
2013-08-28, 02:41
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:55
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:01
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:05
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:09
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:14
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games - Xenos, 2013-08-27, 22:20
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 22:18
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:14
- Halo and Destiny are ACTION games -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:09
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 22:05
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 22:03
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-08-28, 00:45
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Xenos,
2013-08-27, 22:01
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well - Ragashingo, 2013-08-27, 21:57
- Addendum from one of your HBO posts, Cody -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:54
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well - Chewbaccawakka, 2013-08-27, 21:47
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Avateur,
2013-08-27, 21:39
- We both know that Halo stories have been done very well -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-27, 21:08
- Here we go... -
Kermit,
2013-08-27, 20:56
- Here we go... - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-08-30, 11:16
- Here we go... - Risay117, 2013-08-27, 10:08
- Here we go... -
Claude Errera,
2013-08-26, 15:53
- Regardless of what happens... -
serpx,
2013-08-27, 20:53
- this - kidtsunami, 2013-08-28, 03:33
- Gameindustry.biz Pete Parsons interview - Oholiab, 2013-08-31, 20:44
- Here we go... -
rhubarb,
2013-08-26, 15:35