"your" time is valuable to them (Destiny)

by scarab , Wednesday, December 03, 2014, 12:32 (3606 days ago) @ iconicbanana

but they see it as their time not yours.

You both value that time but in diametrically opposed ways.

They see the time you spend playing as: time spent playing. You see it as an investment of effort. They are annulling that effort or, at least, a large chunk of it.

For whatever reason they have a target of X player hours per month to meet. It is nice that they got x hours from you last month but that was last month. They have next month to consider and the ones after that. Your previous hours have no further worth to them.

I don't know if it is only an internal target or if they have a commitment to Activision. Maybe their target is x% of players playing Destiny over a given time period. If you spend all your time grinding in Destiny then you wont have energy or time to play other games.

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If at first you grind, grind again. - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 09:42
- Ugh, this is disgusting - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 09:45
  - Ugh, this is disgusting - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 09:46
    - A likely possibility. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 09:50
      - A little too far, certainly - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 09:53
        
        A little too far, certainly - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 09:57
        
        A little too far, certainly - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 09:59
        
        A little too far, certainly - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:55
        
        A little too far, certainly - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 14:58
        
        A little too far, certainly - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 15:09
        
        That would have been better, no doubt. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 15:10
        
        A little too far, certainly - RC, 2014-12-03, 15:28
        
        A little too far, certainly - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 15:33
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Revenant1988, 2014-12-03, 10:00
        
        No kidding - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:05
        
        Gen 10 here I come. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 10:19
        
        Is RNG a thing in Titanfall? You might have your answer. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:20
        
        Is RNG a thing in Titanfall? You might have your answer. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 10:27
        
        It's the wave of the future dude. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:29
        
        There's smart RNG and then there's Destiny. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 10:38
        
        There's smart RNG and then there's Destiny. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:44
        
        ^ This! - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 10:21
        
        They did something similar with the mythoclast. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:25
        
        They did something similar with the mythoclast. - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 17:06
        
        and you might notice that the new guns are old guns with... - scarab, 2014-12-03, 22:27
        
        and you might notice that the new guns are old guns with... - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-04, 08:05
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 10:24
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 10:39
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 10:54
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 10:56
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 11:11
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:15
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 11:42
        
        What if this became the way to progress with your character? - Revenant1988, 2014-12-03, 10:41
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:42
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 11:59
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:04
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:06
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:12
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:17
        
        "your" time is valuable to them - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:32
        
        I haven't made a plan to stop playing - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:02
        
        I haven't made a plan to stop playing - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:11
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:21
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:25
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:29
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 12:30
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:31
        
        laugh away - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:35
        
        laugh away - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:43
        
        laugh away - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:44
        
        laugh away - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:48
        
        laugh away - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:49
        
        You guys are now arguing about tones/subtext. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 13:00
        
        Indeed. :) - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 13:04
        
        You guys are now arguing about tones/subtext. - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 13:07
        
        You guys are now arguing about tones/subtext. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 13:48
        
        Reach had the best weapons tho. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:50
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 15:05
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 17:28
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 18:30
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 18:43
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 18:51
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 18:58
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 19:04
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 23:03
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 20:15
        
        double fusion bounty 3 times a day for ~3 days a week 4 ever - scarab, 2014-12-03, 22:31
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 13:35
        
        The gunsmith should do this, not Xur - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 13:45
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:39
  - Ugh, this is disgusting - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:41
  - That's not even the worst part - Kahzgul, 2014-12-03, 17:02
    - That's not even the worst part - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 19:15
      - The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - scarab, 2014-12-03, 22:38
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 01:55
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - scarab, 2014-12-04, 04:32
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - Leviathan, 2014-12-04, 08:50
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 09:29
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - scarab, 2014-12-04, 10:23
- Good grief.... - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 10:21
  - ^ This too! - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 10:25
  - Good grief.... - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:44
- If at first you grind, grind again. - LostSpartan, 2014-12-03, 11:04
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:18
- BUTTHURT UPDATE - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 11:19
  - I'm guessing today was not a good morning for DeeJ - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:21
  - Say Hallelujah! - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 11:24
  - Might be too late. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 11:27
  - BUTTHURT UPDATE - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 11:27
  - Why not have Bungie proof read before publishing? - Hoovaloov, 2014-12-03, 11:39
  - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 11:40
    - DeeJ_BNG is king troll today - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:45
    - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 11:48
      - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 11:55
        
        Looks like our gut reaction was right - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 11:59
        
        "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 12:25
      - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - nash, 2014-12-03, 12:20
    - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:01
      - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:03
      - You guyz just aren't reacting right - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:04
      - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - DeeJ, 2014-12-03, 12:43
        
        "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:47
        
        Weekly update clarification then? - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:54
        
        Thanks Deej - Miguel Chavez, 2014-12-03, 14:06
        
        Thanks Deej - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:23
        
        Thanks Deej - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 15:38
        
        Thanks Deej - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 16:03
        
        Thanks Deej - Miguel Chavez, 2014-12-03, 18:31
        
        Thanks Deej - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 18:38
        
        Thanks Deej - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 18:50
        
        Thanks Deej - Miguel Chavez, 2014-12-03, 21:29
        
        "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Chappy, 2014-12-03, 16:08
      - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Kermit, 2014-12-03, 13:27
    - Thank you for your patience, please resume butthurt - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 12:08
    - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - unoudid, 2014-12-03, 12:08
      - "part of the vision" :^) - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:10
        
        Echo Chamber - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:57
        
        Echo Chamber - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 13:52
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 13:57
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 14:29
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 16:24
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 16:28
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 17:11
        
        Echo Chamber - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:31
        
        Echo Chamber - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 14:32
        
        Echo Chamber - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 14:36
        
        I doubt DeeJ read it so it's all kind of moot anyway. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 14:41
        
        Echo Chamber - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 15:33
        
        Echo Chamber - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:01
        
        Echo Chamber - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 19:29
        
        Echo Chamber - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:48
      - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 13:15
    - He's got a point. - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:34
    - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 13:13
    - "Gather the tomatoes." -- DeeJ - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 19:28
- How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - Beorn, 2014-12-03, 12:18
  - That's something we don't know - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:19
    - That's something we don't know - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:22
      - Well, they used to - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:24
  - How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 12:32
  - How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 13:59
  - How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - Xenos, 2014-12-03, 15:41
- On a positive note - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 12:32
  - On a positive note - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 12:36
    - On a positive note - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:44
    - On a positive note - Vortech, 2014-12-04, 01:21
  - On a positive note - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:46
    - On a positive note - CyberKN, 2014-12-03, 12:58
      - An interesting design philosphy - Durandal, 2014-12-03, 13:41
- Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 13:39
  - A picture is worth a thousand words - scarab, 2014-12-03, 13:42
  - Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - Durandal, 2014-12-03, 13:42
    - Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - uberfoop, 2014-12-03, 13:47
      - Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 13:51
        
        So the lead and eraser are... - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 13:54
        
        The lead is your patience. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:01
        
        So the lead and eraser are... - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 14:33
        
        Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - uberfoop, 2014-12-03, 14:33
- If at first you grind, grind again. - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 13:45
- Best comment on Bungie.net - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 13:50
  - Thank you for finding it so I did not need to go there - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 13:52
- And Again in february - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:20
  - So now the real question is . . . - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 15:36
  - And Again in february - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 17:08
    - And Again in february - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 17:14
      - And Again in february - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 18:04
    - And Again in february - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 17:52
- please stop letting Jason Jones make design decisions *nm* - HavokBlue, 2014-12-03, 14:24
- Sunsingers Rejoice! - unoudid, 2014-12-03, 15:07
  - You forgot the Voidfang Vestments - Beorn, 2014-12-03, 16:06
    - we are starting over right? - unoudid, 2014-12-03, 18:11
- If at first you grind, grind again. - RC, 2014-12-03, 15:13
- One thing to note... - Xenos, 2014-12-03, 15:50
- If at first you grind, grind again. - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 15:56
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - Xenos, 2014-12-03, 16:21
    - If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 16:39
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - Vortech, 2014-12-04, 01:34
- If at first you grind, grind again. - Avateur, 2014-12-03, 16:51
- If at first you grind, grind again. - Kahzgul, 2014-12-03, 17:26
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 19:06
    - If at first you grind, grind again. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:24
      - If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 19:46
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:50
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 20:27
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-05, 13:01
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Kermit, 2014-12-05, 13:21
- I'm still having fun... - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 21:04

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