The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time (Destiny)

by Leviathan , Hotel Zanzibar, Thursday, December 04, 2014, 08:50 (3812 days ago) @ scarab

This is obviously well thought out and educated but it assumes quite a bit, especially an unvarying "we". For example, guns aren't in the top five reasons I play the game. And since I have fun with the gameplay and the world, I'm not going out of my way to level gear. It just happens naturally. I'm patient, I upgrade when I can and if I'm not having fun I quit for the night, regardless of some statistic or the progress of a little green bar.

I get where people may not like the game. I get where someone might think Bungie made mistakes. But vilifying the developer as some evil genius mastermind manipulating all of us because you personally don't like their game? Well, you lose me there. :)

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If at first you grind, grind again. - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 09:42
- Ugh, this is disgusting - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 09:45
  - Ugh, this is disgusting - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 09:46
    - A likely possibility. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 09:50
      - A little too far, certainly - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 09:53
        
        A little too far, certainly - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 09:57
        
        A little too far, certainly - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 09:59
        
        A little too far, certainly - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:55
        
        A little too far, certainly - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 14:58
        
        A little too far, certainly - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 15:09
        
        That would have been better, no doubt. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 15:10
        
        A little too far, certainly - RC, 2014-12-03, 15:28
        
        A little too far, certainly - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 15:33
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Revenant1988, 2014-12-03, 10:00
        
        No kidding - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:05
        
        Gen 10 here I come. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 10:19
        
        Is RNG a thing in Titanfall? You might have your answer. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:20
        
        Is RNG a thing in Titanfall? You might have your answer. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 10:27
        
        It's the wave of the future dude. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:29
        
        There's smart RNG and then there's Destiny. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 10:38
        
        There's smart RNG and then there's Destiny. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:44
        
        ^ This! - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 10:21
        
        They did something similar with the mythoclast. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:25
        
        They did something similar with the mythoclast. - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 17:06
        
        and you might notice that the new guns are old guns with... - scarab, 2014-12-03, 22:27
        
        and you might notice that the new guns are old guns with... - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-04, 08:05
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 10:24
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 10:39
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 10:54
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 10:56
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 11:11
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:15
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 11:42
        
        What if this became the way to progress with your character? - Revenant1988, 2014-12-03, 10:41
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 10:42
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 11:59
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:04
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:06
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:12
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:17
        
        "your" time is valuable to them - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:32
        
        I haven't made a plan to stop playing - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:02
        
        I haven't made a plan to stop playing - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:11
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:21
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:25
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:29
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 12:30
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:31
        
        laugh away - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:35
        
        laugh away - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:43
        
        laugh away - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:44
        
        laugh away - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:48
        
        laugh away - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:49
        
        You guys are now arguing about tones/subtext. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 13:00
        
        Indeed. :) - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 13:04
        
        You guys are now arguing about tones/subtext. - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 13:07
        
        You guys are now arguing about tones/subtext. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 13:48
        
        Reach had the best weapons tho. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:50
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 15:05
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 17:28
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 18:30
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 18:43
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 18:51
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 18:58
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 19:04
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 23:03
        
        I have never given up on a Bungie game so soon - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 20:15
        
        double fusion bounty 3 times a day for ~3 days a week 4 ever - scarab, 2014-12-03, 22:31
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 13:35
        
        The gunsmith should do this, not Xur - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 13:45
        
        It doesn't have to be this way! - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:39
  - Ugh, this is disgusting - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:41
  - That's not even the worst part - Kahzgul, 2014-12-03, 17:02
    - That's not even the worst part - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 19:15
      - The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - scarab, 2014-12-03, 22:38
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 01:55
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - scarab, 2014-12-04, 04:32
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - Leviathan, 2014-12-04, 08:50
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 09:29
        
        The thinking is that they want your time, a LOT of your time - scarab, 2014-12-04, 10:23
- Good grief.... - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 10:21
  - ^ This too! - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 10:25
  - Good grief.... - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:44
- If at first you grind, grind again. - LostSpartan, 2014-12-03, 11:04
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:18
- BUTTHURT UPDATE - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 11:19
  - I'm guessing today was not a good morning for DeeJ - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:21
  - Say Hallelujah! - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 11:24
  - Might be too late. - rhubarb, 2014-12-03, 11:27
  - BUTTHURT UPDATE - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 11:27
  - Why not have Bungie proof read before publishing? - Hoovaloov, 2014-12-03, 11:39
  - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 11:40
    - DeeJ_BNG is king troll today - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 11:45
    - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 11:48
      - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 11:55
        
        Looks like our gut reaction was right - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 11:59
        
        "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 12:25
      - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - nash, 2014-12-03, 12:20
    - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:01
      - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:03
      - You guyz just aren't reacting right - scarab, 2014-12-03, 12:04
      - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - DeeJ, 2014-12-03, 12:43
        
        "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:47
        
        Weekly update clarification then? - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:54
        
        Thanks Deej - Miguel Chavez, 2014-12-03, 14:06
        
        Thanks Deej - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:23
        
        Thanks Deej - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 15:38
        
        Thanks Deej - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 16:03
        
        Thanks Deej - Miguel Chavez, 2014-12-03, 18:31
        
        Thanks Deej - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 18:38
        
        Thanks Deej - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 18:50
        
        Thanks Deej - Miguel Chavez, 2014-12-03, 21:29
        
        "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Chappy, 2014-12-03, 16:08
      - "Player reaction to some of the information is what's wrong" - Kermit, 2014-12-03, 13:27
    - Thank you for your patience, please resume butthurt - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 12:08
    - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - unoudid, 2014-12-03, 12:08
      - "part of the vision" :^) - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:10
        
        Echo Chamber - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:57
        
        Echo Chamber - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 13:52
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 13:57
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 14:29
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 16:24
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 16:28
        
        I don't think it's quite that bleak - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 17:11
        
        Echo Chamber - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:31
        
        Echo Chamber - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 14:32
        
        Echo Chamber - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 14:36
        
        I doubt DeeJ read it so it's all kind of moot anyway. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 14:41
        
        Echo Chamber - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 15:33
        
        Echo Chamber - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:01
        
        Echo Chamber - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 19:29
        
        Echo Chamber - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:48
      - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 13:15
    - He's got a point. - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:34
    - "Game Informer got it straight." -- DeeJ_BNG - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 13:13
    - "Gather the tomatoes." -- DeeJ - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 19:28
- How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - Beorn, 2014-12-03, 12:18
  - That's something we don't know - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:19
    - That's something we don't know - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-03, 12:22
      - Well, they used to - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 12:24
  - How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 12:32
  - How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 13:59
  - How long does it take to upgrade an exotic? - Xenos, 2014-12-03, 15:41
- On a positive note - stabbim, 2014-12-03, 12:32
  - On a positive note - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 12:36
    - On a positive note - Ragashingo, 2014-12-03, 12:44
    - On a positive note - Vortech, 2014-12-04, 01:21
  - On a positive note - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 12:46
    - On a positive note - CyberKN, 2014-12-03, 12:58
      - An interesting design philosphy - Durandal, 2014-12-03, 13:41
- Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 13:39
  - A picture is worth a thousand words - scarab, 2014-12-03, 13:42
  - Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - Durandal, 2014-12-03, 13:42
    - Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - uberfoop, 2014-12-03, 13:47
      - Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 13:51
        
        So the lead and eraser are... - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 13:54
        
        The lead is your patience. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:01
        
        So the lead and eraser are... - dogcow, 2014-12-03, 14:33
        
        Hilariously appropriate timing....*GIF - uberfoop, 2014-12-03, 14:33
- If at first you grind, grind again. - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-03, 13:45
- Best comment on Bungie.net - petetheduck, 2014-12-03, 13:50
  - Thank you for finding it so I did not need to go there - iconicbanana, 2014-12-03, 13:52
- And Again in february - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 14:20
  - So now the real question is . . . - Monochron, 2014-12-03, 15:36
  - And Again in february - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 17:08
    - And Again in february - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 17:14
      - And Again in february - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 18:04
    - And Again in february - General Vagueness, 2014-12-03, 17:52
- please stop letting Jason Jones make design decisions *nm* - HavokBlue, 2014-12-03, 14:24
- Sunsingers Rejoice! - unoudid, 2014-12-03, 15:07
  - You forgot the Voidfang Vestments - Beorn, 2014-12-03, 16:06
    - we are starting over right? - unoudid, 2014-12-03, 18:11
- If at first you grind, grind again. - RC, 2014-12-03, 15:13
- One thing to note... - Xenos, 2014-12-03, 15:50
- If at first you grind, grind again. - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-03, 15:56
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - Xenos, 2014-12-03, 16:21
    - If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 16:39
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - Vortech, 2014-12-04, 01:34
- If at first you grind, grind again. - Avateur, 2014-12-03, 16:51
- If at first you grind, grind again. - Kahzgul, 2014-12-03, 17:26
  - If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 19:06
    - If at first you grind, grind again. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:24
      - If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 19:46
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-03, 19:50
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Leviathan, 2014-12-03, 20:27
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-05, 13:01
        
        If at first you grind, grind again. - Kermit, 2014-12-05, 13:21
- I'm still having fun... - Mid7night, 2014-12-03, 21:04

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