
That's another thing (Destiny)
I like knowing that there is a limited amount of snipers and rockets on the map, that way they can be controlled/avoided. Every single person spawning with a shotgun or sniper? Really obnoxious. If I want to play something not competitive, I'll play PvE, if I DO want to compete on a fair playing field? I'll play Halo 5 Arena.
This comes down to weapon balance. If Snipers/Shotguns/Fusions are set up correctly, using them outside their ideal range and situation is a disadvantage. Battlefield 4 is a good example of this, with snipers being a primary but tough to use close in, while shotguns quickly lose effectiveness at range. The maps tend to have a good combination of inside/outside environments where each weapon has home field advantage.
This is why I prefer more objective type games, since forcing people to an objective makes staying in your weapon's comfort zone less tenable.
You can see this in Trials pretty clearly. Where the goal is just to kill, players optimize to 1KS/Last Word in order to have the long range and close range bands covered, knowing mid range engagements will be rare.
In Halo, part of the skill of the game was knowing your current weapons optimum distance and engaging in it against opponents outside of their own. Bungie has been working to make the primaries fit that mold, but the Primary/Special relationship still needs work.
Complete thread:
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
TheeChaos,
2016-01-26, 19:06
- With titles like that, I know the answer is "no." -
Funkmon,
2016-01-26, 19:54
- There's a name for that... - WildthingVII, 2016-01-26, 21:04
- Except... -
ProbablyLast,
2016-01-27, 00:32
- FUNKMON DISAGREES WITH PROBABLYLAST?!?!?!?! - Funkmon, 2016-01-27, 03:39
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Kermit,
2016-01-26, 20:05
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-26, 21:22
- Oh shut up. -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-26, 21:45
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-26, 23:25
- Oh shut up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-26, 23:53
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-26, 23:57
- Oh shut up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-26, 23:59
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 00:01
- Oh shut up. - red robber, 2016-01-27, 00:04
- Oh shut up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-27, 00:34
- I CAN'T play it like a regular FPS -
kidtsunami,
2016-01-27, 12:39
- But BR is all you can get... -
Durandal,
2016-01-27, 15:51
- That's another thing -
kidtsunami,
2016-01-27, 16:21
- That's another thing - Durandal, 2016-01-27, 18:21
- That's another thing -
kidtsunami,
2016-01-27, 16:21
- But BR is all you can get... -
Durandal,
2016-01-27, 15:51
- I CAN'T play it like a regular FPS -
kidtsunami,
2016-01-27, 12:39
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 00:01
- Oh shut up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-26, 23:59
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-26, 23:57
- Oh shut up. -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-27, 01:32
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 01:43
- Oh shut up. - Ragashingo, 2016-01-27, 02:22
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 01:43
- Oh shut up. -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-26, 23:53
- Actually they did -
Kahzgul,
2016-01-27, 17:11
- Actually they did -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 17:19
- Actually they did -
Kahzgul,
2016-01-27, 18:01
- Actually they did -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-27, 23:53
- Also I remember it being worded in a different way. -
Vortech,
2016-01-27, 23:58
- Also I remember it being worded in a different way. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-01-28, 00:03
- Also I remember it being worded in a different way. -
Vortech,
2016-01-27, 23:58
- Actually they did -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-27, 23:53
- Actually they did - Ragashingo, 2016-01-27, 23:11
- Actually they did -
Kahzgul,
2016-01-27, 18:01
- Actually they did -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-27, 22:16
- Actually they did -
Kahzgul,
2016-01-28, 02:39
- Nailed it.
- CyberKN, 2016-01-28, 03:10
- Actually they did - Ragashingo, 2016-01-28, 07:03
- I'm jonesing for a strike. -
narcogen,
2016-01-28, 10:11
- Bingo!
- Kermit, 2016-01-28, 10:31
- I'm jonesing for a strike. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 13:36
- I'm jonesing for a strike. - narcogen, 2016-01-28, 23:53
- I'm jonesing for a strike. -
Kahzgul,
2016-01-28, 16:59
- Upside your head -
narcogen,
2016-01-29, 01:35
- Upside your head -
Kermit,
2016-01-29, 14:58
- Upside your head - Funkmon, 2016-01-29, 15:30
- Upside your head -
Kermit,
2016-01-29, 14:58
- Upside your head -
narcogen,
2016-01-29, 01:35
- Bingo!
- Nailed it.
- Actually they did -
Kahzgul,
2016-01-28, 02:39
- Actually they did -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 17:19
- Oh shut up. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-26, 23:25
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Kermit,
2016-01-28, 13:49
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 13:53
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Kermit,
2016-01-28, 13:59
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State - Cody Miller, 2016-01-28, 14:46
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Kermit,
2016-01-28, 13:59
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 13:53
- Oh shut up. -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-26, 21:45
- Indeed. -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-26, 21:40
- Indeed. - cheapLEY, 2016-01-26, 23:55
- The way I see it... - Oholiab, 2016-01-26, 22:37
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-26, 21:22
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2016-01-26, 20:51
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-26, 21:33
- TripleWRECK on Destiny's Current State - Durandal, 2016-01-26, 23:48
- 2 sides to every coin -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-26, 23:55
- 2 sides to every coin -
Kermit,
2016-01-27, 00:47
- 2 sides to every coin -
General Battuta,
2016-01-27, 14:48
- 2 sides to every coin - Kahzgul, 2016-01-27, 18:04
- 2 sides to every coin - Kermit, 2016-01-27, 20:07
- 2 sides to every coin -
General Battuta,
2016-01-27, 14:48
- 2 sides to every coin -
naturl selexion,
2016-01-27, 01:38
- 2 sides to every coin -
Robot Chickens,
2016-01-27, 02:34
- 2 sides to every coin -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-27, 15:25
- 2 sides to every coin -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-27, 23:06
- 2 sides to every coin - Vortech, 2016-01-27, 23:42
- 2 sides to every coin -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-27, 23:44
- 2 sides to every coin -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-28, 02:50
- One day we'll get patrol missions deep in the hellmouth...
- slycrel, 2016-01-28, 07:02
- One day we'll get patrol missions deep in the hellmouth...
- 2 sides to every coin -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-28, 02:50
- 2 sides to every coin -
cheapLEY,
2016-01-27, 23:06
- 2 sides to every coin -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-27, 15:25
- 2 sides to every coin -
Robot Chickens,
2016-01-27, 02:34
- Agreed -
TheeChaos,
2016-01-27, 13:11
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-27, 14:53
- So much this... - dogcow, 2016-01-27, 15:08
- Just for giggles... -
Claude Errera,
2016-01-27, 17:58
- Just for giggles... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-27, 18:09
- Just for giggles... -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 18:24
- well... dammit.
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-01-27, 19:05
- Aie…bon sang. - Vortech, 2016-01-27, 23:55
- well... dammit.
- I didn't even LIKE that game… - Vortech, 2016-01-27, 23:50
- Just for giggles... -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 18:24
- Just for giggles... - Cody Miller, 2016-01-27, 18:21
- Just for giggles... -
unoudid,
2016-01-27, 18:26
- 927h for me -
ProbablyLast,
2016-01-27, 18:45
- You're welcome! lol
- unoudid, 2016-01-27, 18:56
- Don't feel too good just yet... - Korny, 2016-01-27, 19:11
- You're welcome! lol
- She's NOT A STRIPPER! - Vortech, 2016-01-27, 23:51
- 927h for me -
ProbablyLast,
2016-01-27, 18:45
- 1036 hours for me. Over 6 weeks. 0.o
- slycrel, 2016-01-27, 18:41
- 1443 total. That's a lot of tower/orbit time.
- slycrel, 2016-01-27, 19:26
- 1443 total. That's a lot of tower/orbit time.
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Korny,
2016-01-27, 18:59
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. - Chappy, 2016-01-27, 20:01
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. - nico, 2016-01-27, 21:45
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 22:03
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Korny,
2016-01-27, 22:13
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 22:26
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Claude Errera,
2016-01-28, 00:05
- Fallout 3. Only 8 years old.
- Funkmon, 2016-01-28, 00:17
- Not with Broken Steel Installed.
- Ragashingo, 2016-01-28, 00:29
- Not with Broken Steel Installed.
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 01:57
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
narcogen,
2016-01-28, 10:18
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 13:38
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-28, 15:55
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 16:42
- Archeologies. I think I read about those in the manual...
- Ragashingo, 2016-01-28, 16:42
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
CyberKN,
2016-01-28, 16:45
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 16:58
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
CyberKN,
2016-01-28, 17:02
- Why God invented New Game Plus. - Cody Miller, 2016-01-28, 17:09
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
CyberKN,
2016-01-28, 17:02
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 16:58
- Archeologies. I think I read about those in the manual...
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Avateur,
2016-01-29, 03:54
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-29, 04:02
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Kermit,
2016-01-29, 16:40
- Why God invented New Game Plus. - Cody Miller, 2016-01-29, 19:01
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Kermit,
2016-01-29, 16:40
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-29, 04:02
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 16:42
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Ragashingo,
2016-01-28, 15:55
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-28, 13:38
- Why God invented New Game Plus. -
narcogen,
2016-01-28, 10:18
- Fallout 3. Only 8 years old.
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Claude Errera,
2016-01-28, 00:05
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Cody Miller,
2016-01-27, 22:26
- Kind of sad on my end... 2123 hours. -
Korny,
2016-01-27, 22:13
- Just for giggles... - Vortech, 2016-01-27, 23:44
- Just for giggles... - dogcow, 2016-01-28, 14:00
- Just for giggles... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-27, 18:09
- Agreed -
squidnh3,
2016-01-27, 17:17
- Agreed - TheeChaos, 2016-01-28, 15:53
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-01-27, 14:53
- I agree with this 100%. Well said.
- Kahzgul, 2016-01-27, 17:15
- 2 sides to every coin -
Kermit,
2016-01-27, 00:47
- With titles like that, I know the answer is "no." -
Funkmon,
2016-01-26, 19:54