Immersion and Linear Progression
In spite of this, they were still able to keep a linear narrative going because throughout this whole process your character was levelling up and exploring new parts of the world which your level afforded you access to. Without such a level system it would be impossible to prevent players ‘skipping ahead’ in terms of the linear narrative; you explicitly suggest that players might exchange information with each other, which would lead to exactly this kind of behaviour, completely derailing the linear narrative in the process
And? If they want to skip ahead… they can skip ahead. I think most people who care about the story WOULDN'T skip ahead, because they want to experience it all. There would also be many missions that only add depth and flavor to the story rather than moving it forward. Which lets you experience them in any order with no ill effects. You could get Vincent's ultimate weapon at any time and learn about Lucretia and Sephiroth in FFVII for example, since it was supplemental to the main narrative. Destiny would ideally have lots of that stuff, because the main narrative would move slowly like all MMOs (or else you'd beat it and see the end in a day).Server events could happen to move the narrative forward which are only accessible after they are activated, thus Bungie could control the flow of the main narrative and keep people from going ahead.
Think outside the box man.
You talk about these things as if writing optional, non-linear narrative is just a simple problem to solve. I think the very fact it doesn't exist (a few experiments aside) in mainstream video games is a good demonstration that it's far from simple.
Complete thread:
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
PerseusSpartacus,
2013-07-24, 19:25
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-24, 23:56
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 00:03
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - kapowaz, 2013-07-25, 01:29
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 02:59
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:30
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:35
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 09:40
- Immersion and Linear Progression - uberfoop, 2013-07-25, 18:15
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:43
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:05
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression - kapowaz, 2013-07-26, 08:45
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:05
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 09:40
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:35
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 09:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 09:50
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:45
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 01:48
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 06:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 07:16
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:08
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:51
- That's fair - Xenos, 2013-07-26, 08:59
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:51
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:08
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 07:16
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:36
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:46
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:59
- Sometimes I wonder why you're even here! -
Jillybean,
2013-07-26, 09:54
- One of life's great mysteries isn't it? Why is he here? -
Avateur,
2013-07-26, 11:30
- Heh. - Ragashingo, 2013-07-26, 11:38
- One of life's great mysteries isn't it? Why is he here? -
Avateur,
2013-07-26, 11:30
- Sometimes I wonder why you're even here! -
Jillybean,
2013-07-26, 09:54
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:59
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Xenos, 2013-07-26, 08:58
- Immersion and Linear Progression - electricpirate, 2013-07-26, 09:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Jillybean, 2013-07-26, 09:55
- Immersion and Linear Progression - marmot 1333, 2013-07-26, 10:04
- To many people who are not Cody - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-07-26, 14:05
- Actually to Cody - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-07-26, 14:08
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:46
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 06:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 01:48
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:45
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Xenos,
2013-07-25, 09:56
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:37
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Xenos, 2013-07-25, 10:51
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:37
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:44
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:03
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:28
- Immersion and Linear Progression - kapowaz, 2013-07-29, 07:24
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:28
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:03
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 09:50
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 15:19
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:30
- Not really a new idea... - electricpirate, 2013-07-25, 06:32
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
MrPadraig08,
2013-07-25, 07:04
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 07:57
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:32
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea - electricpirate, 2013-07-25, 09:20
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
RC,
2013-07-26, 03:56
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:34
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
DerekT07,
2013-07-26, 09:41
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea - Cody Miller, 2013-07-28, 11:29
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea - kapowaz, 2013-07-27, 00:38
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
DerekT07,
2013-07-26, 09:41
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:34
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:32
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 07:57
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 07:15
- Me too. - Xenos, 2013-07-26, 08:14
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - General Vagueness, 2013-08-01, 17:26
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Risay117, 2013-07-24, 23:58
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Hedge, 2013-07-25, 00:10
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-07-25, 01:25
- disparate co-op - kidtsunami, 2013-07-25, 02:27
- Singleplayer Experience -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 05:05
- Singleplayer Experience -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-25, 05:30
- NM, posted to wrong place - electricpirate, 2013-07-25, 06:34
- Singleplayer Experience -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-25, 05:30
- Inexperience -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 05:14
- Inexperience - PerseusSpartacus, 2013-07-25, 17:17
- Narrative dissonance due to shared world - electricpirate, 2013-07-25, 06:35
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Ragashingo, 2013-07-25, 06:41
- Time - MrPadraig08, 2013-07-25, 07:08
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Xenos, 2013-07-25, 07:12
- That people worry too much. -
Leviathan,
2013-07-25, 09:11
- Anticipation is a metagame -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 09:24
- yeah I worry because I care, I also don't worry A LOT - kidtsunami, 2013-07-25, 09:31
- I was just being dumb. -
Leviathan,
2013-07-25, 10:14
- I was just being dumb. -
Xenos,
2013-07-25, 10:23
- Agreed - Oholiab, 2013-07-29, 12:40
- Better? *IMG* -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-07-25, 10:39
- Better? *IMG* -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:49
- *Saturn -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:09
- My Very Excellent Mother Served Just Us Nine Pizzas? :p *NM* - Ragashingo, 2013-07-25, 11:15
- *Saturn -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:09
- Better? *IMG* -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:49
- I was just being dumb. -
Xenos,
2013-07-25, 10:23
- Anticipation is a metagame -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 09:24
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 09:53
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-07-25, 10:09
- That you see the redstone -
PerseusSpartacus,
2013-07-25, 17:29
- That you see the redstone -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 07:21
- I think it's from minecraft -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-26, 07:27
- I think it's from minecraft -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:17
- great explanation! thanks! - kidtsunami, 2013-07-26, 08:19
- I think it's from minecraft -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:17
- I think it's from minecraft -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-26, 07:27
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-07-26, 08:24
- That you see the redstone -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 07:21
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 09:00
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-26, 10:01
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:32
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-29, 10:53
- That you see the redstone -
Kermit,
2013-07-31, 14:06
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:32
- That you see the redstone -
Xenos,
2013-07-31, 16:25
- That you see the redstone - Jillybean, 2013-08-01, 14:11
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-01, 14:43
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-08-01, 14:58
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-08-02, 09:41
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-08-02, 09:45
- That you see the redstone -
Xenos,
2013-07-31, 16:25
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:32
- That you see the redstone -
Kermit,
2013-07-31, 14:06
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 13:30
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-31, 14:25
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:30
- That you see the redstone - narcogen, 2013-08-02, 00:24
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:30
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-31, 14:25
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-29, 10:53
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:32
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-26, 10:01
- Public Events -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 10:38
- Public Events -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:46
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:17
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 11:27
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 12:16
- Great point -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 12:19
- Great point - Ragashingo, 2013-07-25, 12:21
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 13:26
- Dungeons and Exploring - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 13:30
- Great point -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 12:19
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 12:16
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 11:27
- Public Events - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 11:18
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:17
- Public Events -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:46
- Friends on different systems -
bluerunner,
2013-07-25, 12:05
- And it'll be expensive! - Ragashingo, 2013-07-25, 12:25
- My thoughts exactly. - Mr Daax, 2013-07-25, 12:35
- good point - kidtsunami, 2013-07-25, 12:43
- That Cody won't like it... - Kermit, 2013-07-25, 18:48
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Malagate,
2013-07-25, 21:46
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - marmot 1333, 2013-07-26, 07:23
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
Avateur,
2013-07-25, 22:39
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-07-26, 14:11
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
Malagate,
2013-07-27, 06:29
- +1 - Kermit, 2013-07-28, 08:59
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* - Avateur, 2013-07-28, 16:41
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
Malagate,
2013-07-27, 06:29
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-07-26, 14:11
- My honest answer -
Kermit,
2013-07-28, 09:24
- My honest answer - Oholiab, 2013-07-29, 13:04
- My honest answer - Mr Daax, 2013-07-30, 19:22
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-01, 21:22
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-01, 21:41
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Xenos,
2013-08-01, 23:07
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-02, 09:32
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Xenos, 2013-08-02, 09:40
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Ragashingo, 2013-08-02, 12:55
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-02, 09:32
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Xenos,
2013-08-01, 23:07
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-01, 21:41
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-24, 23:56