Immersion and Linear Progression
I don't know if I agree that Final Fantasy 7 couldn't be told as well as a movie (I think it's too hard to know for sure)
The reason I mention that one is because of how it takes advantage of the player's starting position of ignorance - you're told Cloud used to be a member of SOLDIER, and you have no reason to doubt that because you're unaware of his history. It turns out that not only was that not true, but not even Cloud realised it wasn't true, and so when his true identity and history become apparent you're actually very much able to relate to the shock of this discovery. This only works because for a large portion of the game the player effectively 'is' Cloud, so he's the character you most strongly relate to. As a book or a film you'd be a third-party and so it couldn't possibly have the same impact.
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- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
PerseusSpartacus,
2013-07-24, 19:25
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- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-24, 23:56
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 00:03
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - kapowaz, 2013-07-25, 01:29
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 02:59
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:30
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:35
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 09:40
- Immersion and Linear Progression - uberfoop, 2013-07-25, 18:15
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:43
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:05
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression - kapowaz, 2013-07-26, 08:45
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:05
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 09:40
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:35
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 09:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 09:50
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:45
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 01:48
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 06:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 07:16
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:08
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:51
- That's fair
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Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:59
- That's fair
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:51
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:08
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 07:16
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:36
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:46
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:59
- Sometimes I wonder why you're even here! -
Jillybean,
2013-07-26, 09:54
- One of life's great mysteries isn't it? Why is he here? -
Avateur,
2013-07-26, 11:30
- Heh. -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-26, 11:38
- Heh.
- One of life's great mysteries isn't it? Why is he here? -
Avateur,
2013-07-26, 11:30
- Sometimes I wonder why you're even here!
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:59
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Xenos, 2013-07-26, 08:58
- Immersion and Linear Progression - electricpirate, 2013-07-26, 09:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Jillybean, 2013-07-26, 09:55
- Immersion and Linear Progression - marmot 1333, 2013-07-26, 10:04
- To many people who are not Cody - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-07-26, 14:05
- Actually to Cody - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-07-26, 14:08
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 08:46
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 06:42
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 01:48
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:45
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Xenos,
2013-07-25, 09:56
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:37
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Xenos, 2013-07-25, 10:51
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:37
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 00:44
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:03
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:28
- Immersion and Linear Progression - kapowaz, 2013-07-29, 07:24
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:28
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
kapowaz,
2013-07-26, 02:03
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 09:50
- Immersion and Linear Progression - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 15:19
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 08:33
- Immersion and Linear Progression -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:30
- Not really a new idea... - electricpirate, 2013-07-25, 06:32
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
MrPadraig08,
2013-07-25, 07:04
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 07:57
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:32
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea - electricpirate, 2013-07-25, 09:20
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
RC,
2013-07-26, 03:56
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:34
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
DerekT07,
2013-07-26, 09:41
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea - Cody Miller, 2013-07-28, 11:29
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea - kapowaz, 2013-07-27, 00:38
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
DerekT07,
2013-07-26, 09:41
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 08:34
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-25, 08:32
- Gamefaqs would implode this game idea -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 07:57
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 07:15
- Me too. - Xenos, 2013-07-26, 08:14
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - General Vagueness, 2013-08-01, 17:26
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Risay117, 2013-07-24, 23:58
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Hedge, 2013-07-25, 00:10
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-07-25, 01:25
- disparate co-op - kidtsunami, 2013-07-25, 02:27
- Singleplayer Experience -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 05:05
- Singleplayer Experience -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-25, 05:30
- NM, posted to wrong place -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 06:34
- NM, posted to wrong place
- Singleplayer Experience -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-25, 05:30
- Inexperience -
kapowaz,
2013-07-25, 05:14
- Inexperience - PerseusSpartacus, 2013-07-25, 17:17
- Narrative dissonance due to shared world - electricpirate, 2013-07-25, 06:35
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Ragashingo, 2013-07-25, 06:41
- Time - MrPadraig08, 2013-07-25, 07:08
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Xenos, 2013-07-25, 07:12
- That people worry too much. -
Leviathan,
2013-07-25, 09:11
- Anticipation is a metagame -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 09:24
- yeah I worry because I care, I also don't worry A LOT -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-25, 09:31
- I was just being dumb. -
Leviathan,
2013-07-25, 10:14
- I was just being dumb. -
Xenos,
2013-07-25, 10:23
- Agreed -
Oholiab,
2013-07-29, 12:40
- Agreed
- Better? *IMG* -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-07-25, 10:39
- Better? *IMG* -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:49
- *Saturn -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:09
- My Very Excellent Mother Served Just Us Nine Pizzas? :p *NM* - Ragashingo, 2013-07-25, 11:15
- *Saturn -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:09
- Better? *IMG* -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:49
- I was just being dumb. -
Xenos,
2013-07-25, 10:23
- yeah I worry because I care, I also don't worry A LOT
- Anticipation is a metagame -
electricpirate,
2013-07-25, 09:24
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-25, 09:53
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-07-25, 10:09
- That you see the redstone -
PerseusSpartacus,
2013-07-25, 17:29
- That you see the redstone -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 07:21
- I think it's from minecraft -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-26, 07:27
- I think it's from minecraft -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:17
- great explanation! thanks! -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-26, 08:19
- great explanation! thanks!
- I think it's from minecraft -
Xenos,
2013-07-26, 08:17
- I think it's from minecraft -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-26, 07:27
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-07-26, 08:24
- That you see the redstone -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-26, 07:21
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-26, 09:00
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-26, 10:01
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:32
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-29, 10:53
- That you see the redstone -
Kermit,
2013-07-31, 14:06
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:32
- That you see the redstone -
Xenos,
2013-07-31, 16:25
- That you see the redstone - Jillybean, 2013-08-01, 14:11
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-08-01, 14:43
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-08-01, 14:58
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-08-02, 09:41
- That you see the redstone - Xenos, 2013-08-02, 09:45
- That you see the redstone -
Xenos,
2013-07-31, 16:25
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:32
- That you see the redstone -
Kermit,
2013-07-31, 14:06
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 13:30
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-31, 14:25
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:30
- That you see the redstone - narcogen, 2013-08-02, 00:24
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-31, 15:30
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-31, 14:25
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-29, 10:53
- That you see the redstone -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-28, 11:32
- That you see the redstone -
Jillybean,
2013-07-26, 10:01
- Public Events -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 10:38
- Public Events -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:46
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:17
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 11:27
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 12:16
- Great point -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 12:19
- Great point - Ragashingo, 2013-07-25, 12:21
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 13:26
- Dungeons and Exploring - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 13:30
- Great point
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 12:16
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
Risay117,
2013-07-25, 11:27
- Public Events - Risay117, 2013-07-25, 11:18
- EVE pulls it off frequently -
ZackDark,
2013-07-25, 11:17
- Public Events -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 10:46
- Friends on different systems -
bluerunner,
2013-07-25, 12:05
- And it'll be expensive! -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-25, 12:25
- My thoughts exactly. -
Mr Daax,
2013-07-25, 12:35
- good point -
kidtsunami,
2013-07-25, 12:43
- And it'll be expensive!
- That Cody won't like it... - Kermit, 2013-07-25, 18:48
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Malagate,
2013-07-25, 21:46
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - marmot 1333, 2013-07-26, 07:23
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
Avateur,
2013-07-25, 22:39
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-07-26, 14:11
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
Malagate,
2013-07-27, 06:29
- +1 -
Kermit,
2013-07-28, 08:59
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* - Avateur, 2013-07-28, 16:41
- +1
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
Malagate,
2013-07-27, 06:29
- That Bungie will add bloom to all the guns *NM* -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-07-26, 14:11
- My honest answer -
Kermit,
2013-07-28, 09:24
- My honest answer - Oholiab, 2013-07-29, 13:04
- My honest answer - Mr Daax, 2013-07-30, 19:22
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-01, 21:22
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-01, 21:41
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Xenos,
2013-08-01, 23:07
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-02, 09:32
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Xenos, 2013-08-02, 09:40
- What's Your Biggest Worry? - Ragashingo, 2013-08-02, 12:55
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
General Vagueness,
2013-08-02, 09:32
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Xenos,
2013-08-01, 23:07
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Ragashingo,
2013-08-01, 21:41
- What's Your Biggest Worry? -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-24, 23:56