HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. (Destiny)
Other developers had prepared their games for 4K, HDR and Wide Colour Gamut. Bungie it seems, not so much.
Bungie is still throwing out that bilge that they don't know what they can do with D2 on XB1X when other game developers have already announced their game upgrades. The development kits have been out for months. Even PUBG is running on it (looking forward to it too).
It's clearly not a priority, given their general development replies (remember that Private Matches haven't even been worked into D2 for launch).
Many of you have said 1080p is good enough and you're not upgrading now, so it doesn't affect you. Reality check. TVs are already highly available as 4K, HDR and WCG. Only the low end TVs are 1080p now. So we're looking at perhaps three years of our favorite game (D2) being the dog in the 4K pony show. It's going to burn a bit and as the months go by, it going to get a little burny-er.
I think you're vastly overestimating the 4k market and the standards that people will have in a few years. Just last year, there were many people playing Destiny at 720p on last-gen consoles. And not only that, but the xXboneXx crowd is going to be a very niche market. 4k will likely not be a priority for Bungie until 2020 at the earliest, and that's mostly because the "4K" consoles will have a decent install base.
Let's look at the numbers:
PS4 has well over a 2:1 sales ratio over the Xbone. Of those, it has a 4:1 sale ratio to the PS4 Pro. And of those purchases, how many do you imagine have a 4ktv? TV sales in general seem to be declining more or less steadily over the past five years, as more people finally have 1080p TVs (Heck, just this past week, my brother got himself a 720p TV, and he's happy with it. Go figure). I dunno. Despite Microsoft spamming the term "4K" over and over at E3, I really don't hear a whole lot of people actually falling for it. What will be the Xbone to XOXO sales ratio (even Phil Spencer has a bit of a bleak outlook)? How long do you think it will take for even a third of console players to have a 4K-supporting console?
Given how small the userbase will be (it's practically non-existent at this point compared to the existing playerbase), do you think that 4k/HDR/WCG are high demand features from the consumer base? No. Then why would a developer put the extra manpower into them now rather than later?
If anything, HDR is likely to be their earliest focus, since even Launch day PS4s support it, even if the majority of TVs in the world currently don't.
Complete thread:
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 08:34
- Wait a fiddly-diddly second, you missed one - Pyromancy, 2017-07-29, 08:57
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... - bluerunner, 2017-07-29, 09:24
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 09:30
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 09:57
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 10:28
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 10:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 12:01
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-29, 12:06
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 12:01
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 10:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 10:28
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 13:34
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 15:54
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Kermit,
2017-07-30, 17:46
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 10:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - Cody Miller, 2017-07-31, 16:17
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 10:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Kermit,
2017-07-30, 17:46
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 16:14
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-29, 16:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-31, 09:49
- A good resolution demo -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- A good resolution demo -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:30
- re: dunkirk -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 13:44
- re: dunkirk -
Funkmon,
2017-07-31, 14:59
- re: dunkirk -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 15:40
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 15:53
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:11
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-07-31, 21:46
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 22:59
- Find me one close to Disney World plz. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-01, 04:42
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 10:02
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:05
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:12
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 10:06
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 14:40
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 15:59
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! - Funkmon, 2017-08-02, 18:57
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 15:59
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 14:40
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 10:06
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:12
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
bluerunner,
2017-08-01, 13:25
- That's amazing! I'm going to tell this story about you. - Funkmon, 2017-08-02, 04:00
- Those are basically Tennessee. Lol! Oh well! Thanks! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:14
- Those are basically Tennessee. Lol! Oh well! Thanks! - bluerunner, 2017-08-02, 05:24
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:05
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 10:02
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 12:36
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Kermit, 2017-08-01, 12:51
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:00
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 13:18
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:33
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Kermit, 2017-08-01, 14:41
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:33
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 13:18
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 14:55
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 18:26
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Vortech, 2017-08-02, 10:48
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 18:26
- Hmm... - Claude Errera, 2017-08-01, 15:03
- Find me one close to Disney World plz. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-01, 04:42
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 22:59
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-07-31, 21:46
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:11
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 15:53
- re: dunkirk -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 15:40
- re: dunkirk -
Funkmon,
2017-07-31, 14:59
- re: dunkirk -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 13:44
- A good resolution demo -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:30
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 12:30
- When did D2 work begin? When did HDR/WCG(4K) hit the tracks? -
Pyromancy,
2017-07-31, 13:08
- D2 - March 2014? HDR10 - August 2015? - Pyromancy, 2017-08-01, 22:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:15
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 13:41
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 14:24
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 14:29
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 18:26
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:15
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 21:52
- The downsampling isn't for fun - Cody Miller, 2017-07-31, 23:14
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 21:52
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:15
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 18:26
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 14:29
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 14:24
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 13:41
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-31, 16:52
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-31, 17:42
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - cheapLEY, 2017-07-31, 17:57
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:56
- When did D2 work begin? When did HDR/WCG(4K) hit the tracks? -
Pyromancy,
2017-07-31, 13:08
- A good resolution demo -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 15:54
- Just to note, there is an "HDR Format" war happening. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 17:05
- Just to note, there is an "HDR Format" war happening. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-29, 18:16
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 09:57
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 11:33
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 16:47
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:05
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 18:16
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:42
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 19:12
- Not to me. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-29, 20:13
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 19:12
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-30, 11:04
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 12:12
- Not to me. -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-30, 12:45
- Heh. (゚⊿゚) - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-30, 14:05
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-30, 17:51
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 18:24
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-30, 18:24
- Not to me. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-30, 19:25
- Not to me. - dogcow, 2017-08-02, 06:45
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:32
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 07:27
- Or they could just sell 2 different games. - Vortech, 2017-07-31, 10:58
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 18:46
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:09
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 09:58
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 10:08
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 23:23
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-03, 02:24
- Not to me. - Kahzgul, 2017-08-04, 20:30
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-03, 02:24
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 23:23
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 10:08
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 09:58
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:09
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 07:27
- Not to me. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-30, 19:25
- One million times this ^ - narcogen, 2017-07-30, 19:44
- I have to dissent here. -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-30, 21:40
- I have to dissent here. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:31
- I have to dissent here. - Harmanimus, 2017-07-31, 10:33
- I have to dissent here. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:31
- Could weapon mod properties be separately tuned for PvP/PvE? - Pyromancy, 2017-07-30, 18:13
- Not to me. -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-30, 12:45
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 12:12
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:42
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 20:25
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 21:13
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 22:48
- Not to me. -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 05:20
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 07:02
- There we go. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 07:32
- There we go. - Avateur, 2017-07-30, 10:54
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Robot Chickens,
2017-07-30, 07:56
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:04
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity - Kahzgul, 2017-07-30, 17:58
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 08:10
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:13
- It was a lot like Lord of Wolves with a bit more range - Robot Chickens, 2017-07-30, 08:19
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
ZackDark,
2017-07-30, 13:23
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity - Harmanimus, 2017-07-30, 17:28
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:13
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:04
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 08:07
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 08:11
- Oh, I know what he was asking. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 10:20
- What am I about? -
Vortech,
2017-07-30, 11:27
- What am I about? - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-30, 12:03
- What am I about? -
Vortech,
2017-07-30, 11:27
- Good news for D2 then - Kahzgul, 2017-07-30, 11:10
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-30, 14:29
- Indeed. All good ones. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 15:07
- Indeed. All good ones. - ZackDark, 2017-07-30, 18:36
- Indeed. All good ones. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 15:07
- Not to me. -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 05:20
- The problem that resulted in HoW shotgun PvE buff. - Funkmon, 2017-07-30, 04:17
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 22:48
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 21:13
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 18:16
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:05
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 16:47
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... - Cody Miller, 2017-07-29, 16:09
- If the beta is any indicator, less dialog is good. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-07-31, 05:47
- + 1 million - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-31, 09:58
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-31, 11:52
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- Congrats being the least funny thing Cheapley has ever heard - Funkmon, 2017-07-31, 14:58
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 16:02
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-31, 16:38
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 16:50
- it's a logical abbreviation, though - Harmanimus, 2017-07-31, 16:56
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 17:01
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? - Vortech, 2017-08-01, 13:13
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 16:50
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-31, 16:38
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? - Kahzgul, 2017-07-31, 18:49
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-08-02, 08:42
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 09:08
- LOL! - Kermit, 2017-08-02, 09:23
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-02, 15:00
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Korny,
2017-08-04, 14:19
- What... did I just read? LOL. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-04, 14:53
- Just like Cortana, he's completely naked, but has no bits! - Korny, 2017-08-04, 22:09
- What... did I just read? LOL. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-04, 14:53
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Korny,
2017-08-04, 14:19
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 09:08
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- But what if... -
ManKitten,
2017-07-31, 12:18
- He already does this, though... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-31, 12:24
- He already does this, though... - ManKitten, 2017-07-31, 12:29
- THAT. WAS. AWFUL. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-31, 13:39
- He already does this, though... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-31, 12:24
- I KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING! ...er... "Hey! Listen!" - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-31, 18:49