Not to me. (Destiny)
I think it’s fine to be wary about Destiny 2 lives up to what it should be. But there is a difference between waiting to see how the next game turns out vs being overtly negative about what is almost certainly a true statement.
Things like weapon and power damage are handled differently in PvE vs PvP. Even in Destiny 1. There’s no lying there. No concealment. No false promise. Yet you make a show out of sighing and being negative.
Now sure, I doubt you are arguing against that. What you are likely unhappy with is the second part:
So I think what you’re actually asking is “Will the combat rhythm for Destiny 2 diverge across PVE and PVP?” The answer to that is “No.” In Destiny you build a character with a bunch of powers, abilities, and we hope, a combat rhythm that is consistent across the game.
“Ok,” I say. “So what do you, INSANEdrive, want instead?”For my question bolded above, I don’t care one bit about how disenfranchised you feel as a past Bungie fan. That’s a whole different discussion.
Shit. I bitched but I didn't back it up within my original post. I relied too much in the moment on past posts being known. I know better then that! >_< Dumb INSANEdrive! Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
Alright. Oh boy, how do I words this...*(I am having wicked Déjà vu right now. Have we discussed this before?)*
...so first of all, while I concur that while disenfranchisement is it's own discussion, it can't be pushed way completely as it is the fuel for my critical - not negative! - critical view. I'm not simply speaking ill for the sake of it. That is neither my want nor intent to do.
I shall now speak to my curiosity, which shall lead to my want. I'm going to try the simple approach here. PvE & PvP are one, yet I am to be told that PvE is different, and PvP is different. (How damage is calculated... ect.) Then... why do they have PvE & PvP together at all? What advantages does this have!? We have seen first hand the sort of issues that can occur with this system. I don't PvP, but I know loud and clear what is happening in PvP. Oh! Thorn! Oh! Snipers/Shotgun Meta!
What I want is to play in PvE, and not have to know what is happening in PvP because they had to balance something and I have to pay for in a game style I DON'T EVEN PLAY! Right now I read that whole original pve pvp quote with what I am aware of, and I think ..."Half Pregnant". This is also in fairness those those of you who DO primarily play PvP, who enjoy playing in a far more tactical fashion on a level playing field. What I enjoy shouldn't have to bother you either! Let's shut up and shoot some things, be they AI or meat puppet!
Yes, things like weapon and power damage may indeed be handled differently in PvE vs PvP, which was something implemented into Destiny. Yet I'm still hearing things from PvP. PvE and PvP are apparently separate but equal in combat rhythm, because that works! The two modes are EXACTLY alike! But not! Obviously!
Bungie! Prove me wrong! Please! I'll baste my foot right now if I must*!
TL;DR: When I play PvE, I should only have to think about PvE, not the function of cross-gamestyle-play.
*I'm not actually going to do this, it's simply a play on a saying. Has Funkmon eaten that sock yet?
Complete thread:
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 08:34
- Wait a fiddly-diddly second, you missed one - Pyromancy, 2017-07-29, 08:57
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... - bluerunner, 2017-07-29, 09:24
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 09:30
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 09:57
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 10:28
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 10:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 12:01
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-29, 12:06
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 12:01
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 10:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 10:28
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 13:34
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 15:54
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Kermit,
2017-07-30, 17:46
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 10:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - Cody Miller, 2017-07-31, 16:17
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 10:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Kermit,
2017-07-30, 17:46
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 16:14
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-29, 16:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-31, 09:49
- A good resolution demo -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- A good resolution demo -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:30
- re: dunkirk -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 13:44
- re: dunkirk -
Funkmon,
2017-07-31, 14:59
- re: dunkirk -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 15:40
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 15:53
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:11
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-07-31, 21:46
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 22:59
- Find me one close to Disney World plz. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-01, 04:42
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 10:02
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:05
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:12
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 10:06
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 14:40
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 15:59
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! - Funkmon, 2017-08-02, 18:57
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 15:59
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 14:40
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 10:06
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:12
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
bluerunner,
2017-08-01, 13:25
- That's amazing! I'm going to tell this story about you. - Funkmon, 2017-08-02, 04:00
- Those are basically Tennessee. Lol! Oh well! Thanks! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:14
- Those are basically Tennessee. Lol! Oh well! Thanks! - bluerunner, 2017-08-02, 05:24
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:05
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 10:02
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 12:36
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Kermit, 2017-08-01, 12:51
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:00
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 13:18
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:33
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Kermit, 2017-08-01, 14:41
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:33
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 13:18
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 14:55
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 18:26
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Vortech, 2017-08-02, 10:48
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 18:26
- Hmm... - Claude Errera, 2017-08-01, 15:03
- Find me one close to Disney World plz. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-01, 04:42
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 22:59
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-07-31, 21:46
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:11
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 15:53
- re: dunkirk -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 15:40
- re: dunkirk -
Funkmon,
2017-07-31, 14:59
- re: dunkirk -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 13:44
- A good resolution demo -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:30
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 12:30
- When did D2 work begin? When did HDR/WCG(4K) hit the tracks? -
Pyromancy,
2017-07-31, 13:08
- D2 - March 2014? HDR10 - August 2015? - Pyromancy, 2017-08-01, 22:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:15
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 13:41
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 14:24
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 14:29
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 18:26
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:15
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 21:52
- The downsampling isn't for fun - Cody Miller, 2017-07-31, 23:14
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 21:52
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:15
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 18:26
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 14:29
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 14:24
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 13:41
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-31, 16:52
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-31, 17:42
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - cheapLEY, 2017-07-31, 17:57
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:56
- When did D2 work begin? When did HDR/WCG(4K) hit the tracks? -
Pyromancy,
2017-07-31, 13:08
- A good resolution demo -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 15:54
- Just to note, there is an "HDR Format" war happening. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 17:05
- Just to note, there is an "HDR Format" war happening. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-29, 18:16
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 09:57
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 11:33
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 16:47
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:05
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 18:16
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:42
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 19:12
- Not to me. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-29, 20:13
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 19:12
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-30, 11:04
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 12:12
- Not to me. -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-30, 12:45
- Heh. (゚⊿゚) - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-30, 14:05
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-30, 17:51
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 18:24
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-30, 18:24
- Not to me. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-30, 19:25
- Not to me. - dogcow, 2017-08-02, 06:45
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:32
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 07:27
- Or they could just sell 2 different games. - Vortech, 2017-07-31, 10:58
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 18:46
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:09
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 09:58
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 10:08
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 23:23
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-03, 02:24
- Not to me. - Kahzgul, 2017-08-04, 20:30
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-03, 02:24
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 23:23
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 10:08
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 09:58
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:09
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 07:27
- Not to me. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-30, 19:25
- One million times this ^ - narcogen, 2017-07-30, 19:44
- I have to dissent here. -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-30, 21:40
- I have to dissent here. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:31
- I have to dissent here. - Harmanimus, 2017-07-31, 10:33
- I have to dissent here. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:31
- Could weapon mod properties be separately tuned for PvP/PvE? - Pyromancy, 2017-07-30, 18:13
- Not to me. -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-30, 12:45
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 12:12
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:42
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 20:25
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 21:13
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 22:48
- Not to me. -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 05:20
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 07:02
- There we go. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 07:32
- There we go. - Avateur, 2017-07-30, 10:54
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Robot Chickens,
2017-07-30, 07:56
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:04
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity - Kahzgul, 2017-07-30, 17:58
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 08:10
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:13
- It was a lot like Lord of Wolves with a bit more range - Robot Chickens, 2017-07-30, 08:19
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
ZackDark,
2017-07-30, 13:23
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity - Harmanimus, 2017-07-30, 17:28
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:13
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:04
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 08:07
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 08:11
- Oh, I know what he was asking. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 10:20
- What am I about? -
Vortech,
2017-07-30, 11:27
- What am I about? - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-30, 12:03
- What am I about? -
Vortech,
2017-07-30, 11:27
- Good news for D2 then - Kahzgul, 2017-07-30, 11:10
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-30, 14:29
- Indeed. All good ones. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 15:07
- Indeed. All good ones. - ZackDark, 2017-07-30, 18:36
- Indeed. All good ones. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 15:07
- Not to me. -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 05:20
- The problem that resulted in HoW shotgun PvE buff. - Funkmon, 2017-07-30, 04:17
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 22:48
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 21:13
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 18:16
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:05
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 16:47
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... - Cody Miller, 2017-07-29, 16:09
- If the beta is any indicator, less dialog is good. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-07-31, 05:47
- + 1 million - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-31, 09:58
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-31, 11:52
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- Congrats being the least funny thing Cheapley has ever heard - Funkmon, 2017-07-31, 14:58
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 16:02
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-31, 16:38
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 16:50
- it's a logical abbreviation, though - Harmanimus, 2017-07-31, 16:56
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 17:01
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? - Vortech, 2017-08-01, 13:13
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 16:50
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-31, 16:38
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? - Kahzgul, 2017-07-31, 18:49
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-08-02, 08:42
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 09:08
- LOL! - Kermit, 2017-08-02, 09:23
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-02, 15:00
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Korny,
2017-08-04, 14:19
- What... did I just read? LOL. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-04, 14:53
- Just like Cortana, he's completely naked, but has no bits! - Korny, 2017-08-04, 22:09
- What... did I just read? LOL. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-04, 14:53
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Korny,
2017-08-04, 14:19
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 09:08
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- But what if... -
ManKitten,
2017-07-31, 12:18
- He already does this, though... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-31, 12:24
- He already does this, though... - ManKitten, 2017-07-31, 12:29
- THAT. WAS. AWFUL. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-31, 13:39
- He already does this, though... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-31, 12:24
- I KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING! ...er... "Hey! Listen!" - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-31, 18:49