A good resolution demo (Destiny)
Steve Yedlin, cinematographer on Looper, Brick, and now The Last Jedi, took a bunch of high end cameras and discusses the impact of resolution on quality and I think the arguments he makes translate pretty well to games as both involve pipelines that process those pixels, in albeit different ways.
I get what he's doing, but trying to match the images with color correction as close as possible defeats the purpose of shooting on film anyway. You can make film look like a digital camera, but there is still a lot film can do that a digital camera can't match. So yeah, you can bring film down to that level, but you can't bring digital up. At least not yet.
I'm not even a DP, and I can tell immediately whether something is film or digital, and can even tell the difference between the Alexa and RED quite easily. These digital cameras have limitations film does not, but it's getting better all the time.
Kodak created the Cineon file format when 35mm film needed to be digitized. They obviously wanted the best image possible, so they chose 2K for resolution, and a 10 bit logarithmic color format. They prioritized color and dynamic range over resolution. Huh. Isn't that something?
Screen size matters. 35mm and 65mm of the same film stock will both look basically the same on a TV. But when you go watch Dunkirk on a screen literally 100 feet high, the extra resolution of IMAX film really matters. 35mm starts to get fuzzy. So yeah. In that instance anyone can see the difference.
But when we are talking about screen sizes in your living room, you are not going to gain a benefit why rendering your game at 4K. Other things make the images look 'better'.
If we are talking VR, that is a different story entirely. We are looking at 8K per eye before the resolution is acceptable.
Complete thread:
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 08:34
- Wait a fiddly-diddly second, you missed one - Pyromancy, 2017-07-29, 08:57
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... - bluerunner, 2017-07-29, 09:24
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 09:30
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 09:57
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 10:28
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 10:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 12:01
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-29, 12:06
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 12:01
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 10:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 10:28
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 13:34
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 15:54
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Kermit,
2017-07-30, 17:46
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 10:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - Cody Miller, 2017-07-31, 16:17
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 10:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Kermit,
2017-07-30, 17:46
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 16:14
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-29, 16:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-31, 09:49
- A good resolution demo -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- A good resolution demo -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:30
- re: dunkirk -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 13:44
- re: dunkirk -
Funkmon,
2017-07-31, 14:59
- re: dunkirk -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 15:40
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 15:53
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:11
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-07-31, 21:46
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 22:59
- Find me one close to Disney World plz. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-01, 04:42
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 10:02
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:05
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:12
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 10:06
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 14:40
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 15:59
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! - Funkmon, 2017-08-02, 18:57
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 15:59
- I'm also a Disney parks nerd! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 14:40
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Vortech,
2017-08-02, 10:06
- Yep. Haven't visited yet. I also am boycotting Tampa MOSI -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:12
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
bluerunner,
2017-08-01, 13:25
- That's amazing! I'm going to tell this story about you. - Funkmon, 2017-08-02, 04:00
- Those are basically Tennessee. Lol! Oh well! Thanks! -
Funkmon,
2017-08-02, 04:14
- Those are basically Tennessee. Lol! Oh well! Thanks! - bluerunner, 2017-08-02, 05:24
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:05
- You're gonna have to drive to Alabama / Georgia dude. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 10:02
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 12:36
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Kermit, 2017-08-01, 12:51
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:00
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 13:18
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:33
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Kermit, 2017-08-01, 14:41
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-08-01, 13:33
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 13:18
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-01, 14:55
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 18:26
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! - Vortech, 2017-08-02, 10:48
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-08-01, 18:26
- Hmm... - Claude Errera, 2017-08-01, 15:03
- Find me one close to Disney World plz. -
Funkmon,
2017-08-01, 04:42
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 22:59
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Kermit,
2017-07-31, 21:46
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:11
- Enjoy the OmnIMAX experience! -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 15:53
- re: dunkirk -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 15:40
- re: dunkirk -
Funkmon,
2017-07-31, 14:59
- re: dunkirk -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 13:44
- A good resolution demo -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:30
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 12:30
- When did D2 work begin? When did HDR/WCG(4K) hit the tracks? -
Pyromancy,
2017-07-31, 13:08
- D2 - March 2014? HDR10 - August 2015? - Pyromancy, 2017-08-01, 22:43
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 13:15
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 13:41
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 14:24
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 14:29
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 18:26
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:15
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 21:52
- The downsampling isn't for fun - Cody Miller, 2017-07-31, 23:14
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 21:52
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:15
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
uberfoop,
2017-07-31, 18:26
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 14:29
- The downsampling isn't for fun -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 14:24
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-31, 13:41
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-31, 16:52
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:56
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-31, 17:42
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. - cheapLEY, 2017-07-31, 17:57
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 16:56
- When did D2 work begin? When did HDR/WCG(4K) hit the tracks? -
Pyromancy,
2017-07-31, 13:08
- A good resolution demo -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 15:54
- Just to note, there is an "HDR Format" war happening. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 17:05
- Just to note, there is an "HDR Format" war happening. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-29, 18:16
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- HDR, perhaps not a big deal now but it will be. -
Korny,
2017-07-29, 09:57
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 11:33
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 16:47
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:05
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 18:16
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:42
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 19:12
- Not to me. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-29, 20:13
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 19:12
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-30, 11:04
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 12:12
- Not to me. -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-30, 12:45
- Heh. (゚⊿゚) - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-30, 14:05
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-30, 17:51
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 18:24
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-30, 18:24
- Not to me. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-30, 19:25
- Not to me. - dogcow, 2017-08-02, 06:45
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:32
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 07:27
- Or they could just sell 2 different games. - Vortech, 2017-07-31, 10:58
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 18:46
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:09
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 09:58
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 10:08
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 23:23
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-03, 02:24
- Not to me. - Kahzgul, 2017-08-04, 20:30
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-03, 02:24
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 23:23
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 10:08
- Not to me. -
Kahzgul,
2017-08-02, 09:58
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 19:09
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 07:27
- Not to me. -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-30, 19:25
- One million times this ^ - narcogen, 2017-07-30, 19:44
- I have to dissent here. -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-30, 21:40
- I have to dissent here. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:31
- I have to dissent here. - Harmanimus, 2017-07-31, 10:33
- I have to dissent here. -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-31, 02:31
- Could weapon mod properties be separately tuned for PvP/PvE? - Pyromancy, 2017-07-30, 18:13
- Not to me. -
Claude Errera,
2017-07-30, 12:45
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 12:12
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:42
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 20:25
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 21:13
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 22:48
- Not to me. -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 05:20
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 07:02
- There we go. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 07:32
- There we go. - Avateur, 2017-07-30, 10:54
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Robot Chickens,
2017-07-30, 07:56
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:04
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity - Kahzgul, 2017-07-30, 17:58
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 08:10
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:13
- It was a lot like Lord of Wolves with a bit more range - Robot Chickens, 2017-07-30, 08:19
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
ZackDark,
2017-07-30, 13:23
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity - Harmanimus, 2017-07-30, 17:28
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:13
- Along these lines. RIP Pocket Infinity -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 08:04
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 08:07
- Not to me. - Yapok, 2017-07-30, 08:11
- Oh, I know what he was asking. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-30, 10:20
- What am I about? -
Vortech,
2017-07-30, 11:27
- What am I about? - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-30, 12:03
- What am I about? -
Vortech,
2017-07-30, 11:27
- Good news for D2 then - Kahzgul, 2017-07-30, 11:10
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-30, 14:29
- Indeed. All good ones. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 15:07
- Indeed. All good ones. - ZackDark, 2017-07-30, 18:36
- Indeed. All good ones. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-30, 15:07
- Not to me. -
Yapok,
2017-07-30, 05:20
- The problem that resulted in HoW shotgun PvE buff. - Funkmon, 2017-07-30, 04:17
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 22:48
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 21:13
- Not to me. -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-29, 18:16
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 18:05
- Not to me. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-29, 16:47
- Not to me. -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-29, 15:23
- A lot of disappointing answers in Bungie's AMA... - Cody Miller, 2017-07-29, 16:09
- If the beta is any indicator, less dialog is good. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-07-31, 05:47
- + 1 million - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-31, 09:58
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
cheapLEY,
2017-07-31, 11:52
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- Congrats being the least funny thing Cheapley has ever heard - Funkmon, 2017-07-31, 14:58
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Vortech,
2017-07-31, 16:02
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-31, 16:38
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 16:50
- it's a logical abbreviation, though - Harmanimus, 2017-07-31, 16:56
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-31, 17:01
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? - Vortech, 2017-08-01, 13:13
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
ZackDark,
2017-07-31, 16:50
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-31, 16:38
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? - Kahzgul, 2017-07-31, 18:49
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-08-02, 08:42
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 09:08
- LOL! - Kermit, 2017-08-02, 09:23
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Robot Chickens,
2017-08-02, 15:00
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Korny,
2017-08-04, 14:19
- What... did I just read? LOL. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-04, 14:53
- Just like Cortana, he's completely naked, but has no bits! - Korny, 2017-08-04, 22:09
- What... did I just read? LOL. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-04, 14:53
- Serious Donald Duck syndrome -
Korny,
2017-08-04, 14:19
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-02, 09:08
- Why, you don't want to hear about Vex milk? -
Korny,
2017-07-31, 12:04
- But what if... -
ManKitten,
2017-07-31, 12:18
- He already does this, though... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-31, 12:24
- He already does this, though... - ManKitten, 2017-07-31, 12:29
- THAT. WAS. AWFUL. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-31, 13:39
- He already does this, though... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-31, 12:24
- I KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING! ...er... "Hey! Listen!" - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-31, 18:49