Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside (Recruitment)
Once again you mischaracterize me and I do wish you would stop it. Plenty of native English speakers speak terrible English--myself included sometimes. At the same time being a native speaker can give you intuition regarding nuances of usage that a non-native speaker would have to learn. (I don't quite agree with Funkmon's assertion that this sort of thing can't be learned.) I characterized Raichu's non-conventional word choices as characteristic of non-native English speakers. That is all.
Did you know the hit TV show on NBC "This is Us" is actually incorrect? Grammatically it should be "This is We". But which sounds better? Language is flexible. Be adaptable. Or else we'd be stuck with "to go boldly where no one has gone before".Inside means whatever you want it to mean as long as that meaning is clear to the listener.
WUT
It flat out isn't this is we. We is the nominative, us is the accusative and dative.
S V O
This is us
Subject verb object.
Some may be under the misapprehension that is is an auxiliary verb thereby meaning it doesn't have the power of the predicate and needs another one, like "Steve is dancing," where dancing is the verb and is is the auxiliary.
English is very clear on this.
Some style guides, which often have huge amounts of made up modern rules (like Strunk and White having rules that are simply pet peeves of Strunk, with zero agreement at the time from other sources), suggest something like "It was I." It's a flat out misuse of English pronouns, and we know this, because we have to be taught it. At this point, things like "It was I," are accepted among some and exist idiomatically, but are not productive in speech.
But you're right, English does change, and you just gave great examples of language change that has been thrust upon English from its speakers, like rules to not split infinitives, not organic change itself.
Few native English speakers speak bad English.
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Kermit,
2017-11-13, 07:45
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cheapLEY,
2017-11-13, 09:18
- You would've been my replacement - Kermit, 2017-11-13, 09:41
- I should be available - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-11-13, 09:58
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Korny,
2017-11-13, 20:02
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cheapLEY,
2017-11-13, 20:47
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Korny,
2017-11-13, 22:06
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Kermit,
2017-11-14, 05:06
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Speedracer513,
2017-11-14, 09:55
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 10:16
- Just call 'em past and future and we're all good -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 11:20
- Mars and Venus yo - Cody Miller, 2017-11-14, 11:26
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Korny,
2017-11-14, 11:32
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 11:38
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Korny,
2017-11-14, 11:45
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Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 11:49
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Korny,
2017-11-14, 12:09
- Thanks to Korny et al. - Kermit, 2017-11-14, 12:30
- The upside down may "easier", but is less forgiving. - dogcow, 2017-11-14, 12:35
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Korny,
2017-11-14, 12:09
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Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 11:49
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-14, 13:23
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 13:56
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-14, 14:16
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 14:24
- More evidence. -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 14:29
- More evidence. -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 14:36
- More evidence. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 14:37
- More evidence. -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 15:00
- More evidence. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 15:41
- More evidence. -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-14, 15:49
- LOL -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-11-15, 08:20
- You beat me. - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 10:19
- LOL -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-11-15, 08:20
- More evidence. -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 16:00
- Encoding Lag. -
narcogen,
2017-11-14, 18:20
- Encoding Lag. - Ragashingo, 2017-11-14, 19:39
- Encoding Lag. -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 19:53
- Shouldn't it be Decoding lag, though? -
Vortech,
2017-11-15, 15:46
- Welcome Brother - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-15, 16:11
- Shouldn't it be Decoding lag, though? - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 19:56
- Shouldn't it be Decoding lag, though? -
Vortech,
2017-11-15, 15:46
- Encoding Lag. -
narcogen,
2017-11-14, 18:20
- More evidence. -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-14, 16:03
- More evidence. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 16:45
- More evidence. - Xenos, 2017-11-14, 17:32
- More evidence. - RaichuKFM, 2017-11-14, 17:37
- More evidence. -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-14, 18:09
- Mars/left 4 letters, Venus/right 5 letters. - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 06:14
- More evidence. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 16:45
- More evidence. -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-14, 15:49
- More evidence. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 15:41
- More evidence. -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 15:00
- Use quotes, amateur. - Kermit, 2017-11-14, 14:38
- More evidence. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 14:37
- More evidence. -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-14, 15:25
- I think you've done a great job... -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 15:29
- Yeah. -
bluerunner,
2017-11-14, 17:04
- The biggest takeaway . . . - cheapLEY, 2017-11-14, 18:15
- Yeah. -
bluerunner,
2017-11-14, 17:04
- More evidence. -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 19:48
- More evidence. -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-14, 23:49
- More evidence. -
Kermit,
2017-11-15, 04:47
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 05:48
- I was waiting for the word 'etymology' to pop up. ;) -
dogcow,
2017-11-15, 07:52
- I'm quite pleased. - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 08:55
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-15, 13:06
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 14:13
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Kermit,
2017-11-15, 14:40
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-15, 14:58
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 15:23
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-15, 16:29
- Sometimes. Here it is used as a copulative/transitive. -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 16:52
- Sometimes. Here it is used as a copulative/transitive. -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-15, 17:04
- Only in Latin. - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 18:03
- Sometimes. Here it is used as a copulative/transitive. -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-15, 17:04
- Sometimes. Here it is used as a copulative/transitive. -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 16:52
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-15, 16:29
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 15:40
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 15:53
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 16:29
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside - Korny, 2017-11-15, 16:51
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 20:28
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 20:48
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 16:29
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 15:53
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 15:23
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Cody Miller,
2017-11-15, 14:58
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 16:20
- That was supposed to say 1385. - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 22:11
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Kermit,
2017-11-15, 14:40
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 15:58
- This is fun. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-15, 16:44
- This is fun. - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-15, 16:53
- This is fun. - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 18:52
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-15, 17:53
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 18:42
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-15, 18:59
- Then we agree completely. - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 20:47
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-15, 18:59
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 18:42
- This is fun. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-15, 16:44
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 14:13
- I was waiting for the word 'etymology' to pop up. ;) -
dogcow,
2017-11-15, 07:52
- More evidence. -
Korny,
2017-11-15, 07:57
- More evidence. -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 09:00
- More evidence. -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-15, 13:10
- LOL. - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 13:12
- A note on forests -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-15, 13:42
- A note on forests - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 14:09
- >devoid of context - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 14:26
- More evidence. -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-15, 13:10
- More evidence. - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 09:57
- More evidence. -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 09:00
- Useless argument. WARNING: basic semantic theory inside -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 05:48
- More evidence. -
Kermit,
2017-11-15, 04:47
- Sorry Kermit -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 07:53
- Also, just use “home team” and “away team” - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-15, 08:12
- Sorry Kermit -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-15, 09:29
- Sorry Kermit - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-11-15, 09:51
- Sorry Kermit - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-15, 09:54
- Sorry Kermit -
Kermit,
2017-11-15, 09:30
- Sorry Kermit -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 11:23
- Sorry Kermit -
Kermit,
2017-11-15, 11:42
- Sorry Kermit -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 12:57
- Sorry Kermit - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 13:18
- YES PLEASE - Funkmon, 2017-11-15, 18:33
- Sorry Kermit -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 12:57
- Sorry Kermit -
Funkmon,
2017-11-15, 11:47
- Sorry Kermit - Robot Chickens, 2017-11-15, 12:44
- Sorry Kermit -
Kermit,
2017-11-15, 11:42
- Sorry Kermit -
Robot Chickens,
2017-11-15, 11:23
- More evidence. -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-14, 23:49
- I think you've done a great job... -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 15:29
- More evidence. -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 14:36
- More evidence. -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 14:29
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 14:24
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) - Korny, 2017-11-14, 14:16
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-11-15, 08:17
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) -
RaichuKFM,
2017-11-14, 14:16
- Thanks to Korny et al. (Raid spoilers hereabouts) -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 13:56
- Also... - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-11-15, 08:13
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Korny,
2017-11-14, 11:45
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Maeluu1,
2017-11-15, 12:43
- Thanks to Korny et al. - Kermit, 2017-11-15, 13:13
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 11:38
- Just call 'em past and future and we're all good -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-14, 11:20
- This. - Ragashingo, 2017-11-14, 13:24
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 10:16
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Speedracer513,
2017-11-14, 09:55
- Ringers for Calus on PS4 - Kermit, 2017-11-14, 10:22
- Thanks to Korny et al. -
Kermit,
2017-11-14, 05:06
- Ringers for Calus on PS4 -
Korny,
2017-11-13, 22:06
- Ringers for Calus on PS4 -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-13, 20:47
- Ringers for Calus on PS4 -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-13, 09:18