LOL
First of all, the money has to come from somewhere, so what you're advocating is essentially the hardcore players spending more than $60 to subsidize the casuals playing for free or cheap, and that's really really stupid. This is a leisure, luxury activity so we don't need to be spreading the wealth around so the casuals can play for free at (literally) our expense, thank you very much.
But that's precisely what's happening in the ‘freemium’ marketplace, with a small number of extremely extravagant ‘whales’ contributing a disproportionate amount to the bottom line.
Free to Play and Micro Transactions ruin games. Period.
Team Fortress 2 has been ruined, huh? Better tell everyone who plays it.
I'd probably argue more for Tribes Ascend than TF2. TF2 is unique in that it harkens from a lineage of older FPS game design as opposed to Tribes Ascend which was designed by a F2P designer to be F2P, and is IMO the best at it.
Complete thread:
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:01
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- Who cares? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:33
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:39
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:58
- Yeah. - UnrealCh13f, 2013-02-27, 13:23
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:32
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:35
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:59
- So I was half right about BF3. - bryan newman, 2013-02-27, 14:46
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:59
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:35
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:58
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 13:03
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:19
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. - uberfoop, 2013-02-27, 13:27
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:19
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:06
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-02-27, 14:42
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 15:37
- Obviously me, and many, many others - narcogen, 2013-02-28, 23:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 15:53
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Leisandir,
2013-02-27, 17:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 17:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Leisandir, 2013-02-27, 20:47
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 17:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - General Vagueness, 2013-03-01, 16:26
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Leisandir,
2013-02-27, 17:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 15:37
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
narcogen,
2013-02-28, 23:19
- YES -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:57
- YES - ZackDark, 2013-03-01, 11:15
- YES - mnemesis, 2013-03-01, 12:00
- YES -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:57
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-02-27, 14:42
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
iZac,
2013-02-27, 22:08
- Obviously me, and many, many others - bryan newman, 2013-02-28, 02:13
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines.
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Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 04:40
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
iZac,
2013-02-28, 09:08
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 17:27
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. - iZac, 2013-03-01, 19:42
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 17:27
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
iZac,
2013-02-28, 09:08
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 11:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 11:45
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:14
- Obviously me, and many, many others - ZackDark, 2013-03-01, 13:27
- Wow. That's all I have to say, just wow. -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 13:30
- Yep. You just lost me. -
thebruce,
2013-03-01, 14:40
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
General Vagueness,
2013-03-01, 17:27
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 17:33
- +1 -
Kermit,
2013-03-02, 00:22
- +1
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 17:33
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 06:36
- +1 -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-03-02, 07:16
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 07:44
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 08:15
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 08:51
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:53
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-02, 22:10
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? - Mr Daax, 2013-03-05, 20:44
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-02, 22:10
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:53
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 08:51
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 08:15
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 07:55
- Not defending the business people, defending the developers - Xenos, 2013-03-02, 09:14
- +1
- Obviously me, and many, many others - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-03-02, 07:14
- Dude! - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 10:03
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:14
- Obviously me, and many, many others - thebruce, 2013-03-01, 12:03
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:11
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 13:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Cody Miller, 2013-03-01, 13:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-02, 07:47
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Jillybean,
2013-03-02, 10:59
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:40
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 16:52
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:40
- I liked the Library. -
Malagate,
2013-03-01, 13:34
- Not everybody does. I find it relaxing. Best played late. -
scarab,
2013-03-03, 11:32
- Not everybody does. I find it relaxing. Best played late.
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 13:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 11:45
- Obviously me, and many, many others - General Vagueness, 2013-03-01, 16:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 11:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:39
- why Microtransactions, F2P are good for you -
electricpirate,
2013-02-27, 13:31
- LOL -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:18
- LOL - kapowaz, 2013-02-27, 14:24
- LOL - electricpirate, 2013-02-27, 16:43
- Insert coin to continue -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-02-28, 19:22
- Insert coin to continue - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 10:14
- Bars. -
Malagate,
2013-02-27, 14:58
- Bars. -
mnemesis,
2013-02-27, 20:57
- Get the pitchforks -
Leviathan,
2013-02-27, 23:19
- Shenanigans! - Revenant1988, 2013-02-28, 06:36
- Get the pitchforks -
Leviathan,
2013-02-27, 23:19
- Bars. - Cody Miller, 2013-02-28, 09:40
- Bars. -
mnemesis,
2013-02-27, 20:57
- LOL -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:18
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* -
petetheduck,
2013-02-28, 09:35
- Could not agree more -
kidtsunami,
2013-03-01, 01:07
- Could not agree more
- Welcome to Paymium models. - Beckx, 2013-02-28, 10:28
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* - SIX min WHISTLE, 2013-02-28, 14:35
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... -
Xenos,
2013-02-28, 19:57
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... - Kalamari, 2013-03-01, 11:24
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... -
Avateur,
2013-03-01, 19:12
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... - Xenos, 2013-03-01, 19:22
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* - Phoenix_9286, 2013-02-28, 20:21
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Avateur,
2013-03-02, 20:10
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 10:02
- Reply 1 -
Avateur,
2013-03-03, 18:55
- Reply 2 - Avateur, 2013-03-03, 18:56
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
RC,
2013-03-04, 07:16
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
kapowaz,
2013-03-04, 07:20
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Kermit,
2013-03-04, 08:49
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - kapowaz, 2013-03-04, 08:55
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Kermit,
2013-03-04, 08:49
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - Avateur, 2013-03-04, 16:53
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-04, 19:15
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - Xenos, 2013-03-04, 19:26
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
kapowaz,
2013-03-04, 07:20
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - NsU Soldier, 2013-03-03, 19:29
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-04, 00:53
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - kapowaz, 2013-03-04, 01:49
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - thebruce, 2013-03-04, 06:48
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - Kermit, 2013-03-04, 16:03
- Reply 1 -
Avateur,
2013-03-03, 18:55
- He absolutely nails it. - kapowaz, 2013-03-03, 23:33
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 10:02
- Funny thing about Mirco-transactions (in my experience) -
Revenant1988,
2013-03-04, 10:04
- EA claims that's not what they meant -
Xenos,
2013-03-06, 10:26
- EA claims that's not what they meant - Avateur, 2013-03-06, 10:57
- And they awoke to find it all had been a dream. -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 11:59
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Avateur,
2013-03-06, 12:10
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 13:03
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-06, 13:15
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking - Kermit, 2013-03-06, 13:22
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-06, 13:15
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 13:03
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Avateur,
2013-03-06, 12:10
- EA claims that's not what they meant -
Xenos,
2013-03-06, 10:26
- Who cares? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:33