"Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm?
Man, Cody riles you guys up so much you'll say absolutely anything to disagree with him.
Designing a game a certain way and then adding pay options to get through it faster isn't the only option. Used to be, you got those options as part of a $60 retail title - they didn't sell easy difficulties or the weapons to make it easier as a separate charge. Contra is hard as hell but it shipped with the Konami code, if you were so inclined. Microtransactions don't "make it possible," they monetize it.
Think for a second: Cody isn't alone in his position. Narcogen and I both agree with Cody. Pete_the_duck has expressed significant concerns about it. Several other people in the thread have the same "fuck those players who want it" attitude when you apply microtransactions to multiplayer.
Option 2 is really a decent option here - liking games and hating the business practices that go with them. Game designers aren't the ones saying "man, this game would be so much better if I could build in more ways to charge people." That's the business guys (and if a game designer is doing it, they're wearing a business hat when they do). They don't need your defense. Their models are going to churn along without your support because the vast majority of players right now are willing to buy in. (As an aside, that's why the "LOL it's capitalism, don't buy it if you don't like it and stop posting" is a rubbish argument, because minority votes in a market place are disregarded.)
Complete thread:
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:01
- Who cares? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:33
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:39
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:58
- Yeah. - UnrealCh13f, 2013-02-27, 13:23
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:32
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:35
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:59
- So I was half right about BF3. - bryan newman, 2013-02-27, 14:46
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:59
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:35
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:58
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 13:03
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:19
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. - uberfoop, 2013-02-27, 13:27
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:19
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:06
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-02-27, 14:42
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 15:37
- Obviously me, and many, many others - narcogen, 2013-02-28, 23:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 15:53
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Leisandir,
2013-02-27, 17:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 17:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Leisandir, 2013-02-27, 20:47
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 17:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - General Vagueness, 2013-03-01, 16:26
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Leisandir,
2013-02-27, 17:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 15:37
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
narcogen,
2013-02-28, 23:19
- YES -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:57
- YES - ZackDark, 2013-03-01, 11:15
- YES - mnemesis, 2013-03-01, 12:00
- YES -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:57
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-02-27, 14:42
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
iZac,
2013-02-27, 22:08
- Obviously me, and many, many others - bryan newman, 2013-02-28, 02:13
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 04:40
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
iZac,
2013-02-28, 09:08
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 17:27
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. - iZac, 2013-03-01, 19:42
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 17:27
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
iZac,
2013-02-28, 09:08
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 11:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 11:45
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:14
- Obviously me, and many, many others - ZackDark, 2013-03-01, 13:27
- Wow. That's all I have to say, just wow. - Xenos, 2013-03-01, 13:30
- Yep. You just lost me. - thebruce, 2013-03-01, 14:40
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
General Vagueness,
2013-03-01, 17:27
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 17:33
- +1 - Kermit, 2013-03-02, 00:22
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 17:33
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 06:36
- +1 - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-03-02, 07:16
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 07:44
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 08:15
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 08:51
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:53
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-02, 22:10
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? - Mr Daax, 2013-03-05, 20:44
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-02, 22:10
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:53
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 08:51
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 08:15
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 07:55
- Not defending the business people, defending the developers - Xenos, 2013-03-02, 09:14
- Obviously me, and many, many others - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-03-02, 07:14
- Dude! - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 10:03
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:14
- Obviously me, and many, many others - thebruce, 2013-03-01, 12:03
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:11
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 13:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Cody Miller, 2013-03-01, 13:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-02, 07:47
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Jillybean,
2013-03-02, 10:59
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:40
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 16:52
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:40
- I liked the Library. -
Malagate,
2013-03-01, 13:34
- Not everybody does. I find it relaxing. Best played late. - scarab, 2013-03-03, 11:32
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 13:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 11:45
- Obviously me, and many, many others - General Vagueness, 2013-03-01, 16:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 11:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:39
- why Microtransactions, F2P are good for you -
electricpirate,
2013-02-27, 13:31
- LOL -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:18
- LOL - kapowaz, 2013-02-27, 14:24
- LOL - electricpirate, 2013-02-27, 16:43
- Insert coin to continue -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-02-28, 19:22
- Insert coin to continue - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 10:14
- Bars. -
Malagate,
2013-02-27, 14:58
- Bars. -
mnemesis,
2013-02-27, 20:57
- Get the pitchforks -
Leviathan,
2013-02-27, 23:19
- Shenanigans! - Revenant1988, 2013-02-28, 06:36
- Get the pitchforks -
Leviathan,
2013-02-27, 23:19
- Bars. - Cody Miller, 2013-02-28, 09:40
- Bars. -
mnemesis,
2013-02-27, 20:57
- LOL -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:18
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* -
petetheduck,
2013-02-28, 09:35
- Could not agree more - kidtsunami, 2013-03-01, 01:07
- Welcome to Paymium models. - Beckx, 2013-02-28, 10:28
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* - SIX min WHISTLE, 2013-02-28, 14:35
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... -
Xenos,
2013-02-28, 19:57
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... - Kalamari, 2013-03-01, 11:24
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... -
Avateur,
2013-03-01, 19:12
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... - Xenos, 2013-03-01, 19:22
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* - Phoenix_9286, 2013-02-28, 20:21
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Avateur,
2013-03-02, 20:10
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 10:02
- Reply 1 -
Avateur,
2013-03-03, 18:55
- Reply 2 - Avateur, 2013-03-03, 18:56
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
RC,
2013-03-04, 07:16
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
kapowaz,
2013-03-04, 07:20
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Kermit,
2013-03-04, 08:49
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - kapowaz, 2013-03-04, 08:55
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Kermit,
2013-03-04, 08:49
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - Avateur, 2013-03-04, 16:53
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-04, 19:15
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - Xenos, 2013-03-04, 19:26
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
kapowaz,
2013-03-04, 07:20
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - NsU Soldier, 2013-03-03, 19:29
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-04, 00:53
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - kapowaz, 2013-03-04, 01:49
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - thebruce, 2013-03-04, 06:48
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - Kermit, 2013-03-04, 16:03
- Reply 1 -
Avateur,
2013-03-03, 18:55
- He absolutely nails it. - kapowaz, 2013-03-03, 23:33
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 10:02
- Funny thing about Mirco-transactions (in my experience) -
Revenant1988,
2013-03-04, 10:04
- EA claims that's not what they meant -
Xenos,
2013-03-06, 10:26
- EA claims that's not what they meant - Avateur, 2013-03-06, 10:57
- And they awoke to find it all had been a dream. -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 11:59
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Avateur,
2013-03-06, 12:10
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 13:03
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-06, 13:15
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking - Kermit, 2013-03-06, 13:22
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-06, 13:15
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 13:03
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Avateur,
2013-03-06, 12:10
- EA claims that's not what they meant -
Xenos,
2013-03-06, 10:26
- Who cares? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:33