Thank you for being reasonable. (Destiny)
The other thing is: Why would you even want to appear unbiased? I could see arguing that people should pick the best platform for the best rewards. I can see arguing the opposite, that the industry is broken by exclusives. But arguing: "Meh, whatevers." just seems kinda odd. It kinda feels like taking a neutral position is an attempt to criticize others without having to accept or respond to any criticism directed back at yourself. It's like saying "You're wrong, but I have no opinion on the matter so you can't say I'm wrong."
Not a matter of appearances, honestly. I like the arguing for one or the other. I like seeing that play out in this thread without belittlement, brushing aside, condescending, name calling, or disregarding how people are feeling on the subject. That's all I've been calling out.
Well, I think having no opinion in all of this is wrong. As is having an opinion but refusing to share it just so you can remain above the fray. Personally, I think the fray is kinda fun even if we (myself very very much included here) sometimes make mistakes and have to take some flack for them.
As for where I stand, believe it or not I really am in a "whatevers" grouping. I really don't have an opinion. If you think that's wrong, well that's totally cool with me. For the first time since 2000, nothing Bungie does will decide my console purchase. This Beta thing, the DLC or time-restricted content (which I've readily said is total trash) will not impact whether I go for Xbox One or PS4. Both sides have valid points. Both sides have expressed a ridiculous level of "love" or "hate" for whatever. One side has been far more rude and dismissive of it, which leads to conversations like this even occurring instead of constructive ones about what Activision or Bungie or someone should do or what people would like them to do, vs. "well gee Bungie has made it so totally obvious beyond forever that the Sony route is the route, and if you didn't realize that, well how dare you be upset, I mean gosh really oh em gee diaper." lol
I also haven't claimed that anyone is inherently wrong. I've actually said the opposite. People have a right to think that pete, yours, or others' reactions were totally ridiculous. They can then state why without being totally dismissive and without name calling or acting like the people upset are stupid for somehow lacking foresight in their purchasing decisions (see Narcogen's post for a really good example of a really good post in my opinion). That's all I'm getting at. Just because I may have some interesting translations for how I view what someone who bought a PS4 is saying doesn't mean I disagree with their premise.
That's all, in this case. I know you've read my HBO posts. I'm really, really good at biased opinion making and hyperbole. I'm definitely not always the cooler head, that's for sure. That's not the case here, and I really don't have an opinion of my own regarding this Beta stuff in general other than, "Some of you are mad, some of you aren't, how about the people who aren't don't attack the people who are. Just tell them why you disagree, passionately even and with hyperbole because fun, and then let's have an awesome discussion or debate. Thanks."
Complete thread:
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here -
petetheduck,
2014-07-07, 10:24
- I own a PS4 but will be getting this on XBox - kidtsunami, 2014-07-07, 10:25
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - Phoenix_9286, 2014-07-07, 10:33
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here -
bluerunner,
2014-07-07, 10:34
- hold x to riot -
electricpirate,
2014-07-07, 11:00
- More like: Hold X to Flip Table -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 11:03
- More like: Hold X to generate meaningless internet rage. - yakaman, 2014-07-07, 12:48
- More like: Hold X to Flip Table -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 11:03
- hold x to riot -
electricpirate,
2014-07-07, 11:00
- My logic - INSANEdrive, 2014-07-07, 10:35
- No Ghost Ed. for XB1? "I'm heartbroken" is an understatement -
spidersVise,
2014-07-07, 10:36
- No Ghost Ed. for XB1? "I'm heartbroken" is an understatement -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-07, 10:40
- No Ghost Ed. for XB1? "I'm heartbroken" is statement - spidersVise, 2014-07-07, 10:43
- No Ghost Ed. for XB1? "I'm heartbroken" is an understatement -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-07-07, 10:40
- A roller coaster ride - breitzen, 2014-07-07, 10:38
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here -
yakaman,
2014-07-07, 10:41
- Oh snap. Shots fired DeeJ - INSANEdrive, 2014-07-07, 10:44
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - CaneCutter, 2014-07-07, 10:44
- Here's a crazy notion. -
Korny,
2014-07-07, 10:59
- Here's a crazy notion. - stabbim, 2014-07-07, 11:02
- This is by far the strangest Bungie Day of all time... -
MrPadraig08,
2014-07-07, 11:10
- This is by far the strangest Bungie Day of all time... - Malagate, 2014-07-07, 11:12
- This is by far the strangest Bungie Day of all time... -
bluerunner,
2014-07-07, 11:49
- he's come a long way. - MrPadraig08, 2014-07-07, 11:50
- Huehuehue - Korny, 2014-07-07, 12:07
- This is by far the strangest Bungie Day of all time... - DaDerga, 2014-07-07, 13:26
- Here's a crazy notion. -
petetheduck,
2014-07-07, 11:14
- Here's a crazy notion. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 11:25
- Here's a crazy notion. -
petetheduck,
2014-07-07, 11:36
- Here's a crazy notion. -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-09, 22:03
- Here's a crazy notion. - petetheduck, 2014-07-10, 06:01
- Here's a crazy notion. -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-09, 22:03
- Here's a crazy notion. -
petetheduck,
2014-07-07, 11:36
- Entitlement. -
narcogen,
2014-07-07, 18:51
- Entitlement. - Kermit, 2014-07-07, 19:05
- Entitlement. - Avateur, 2014-07-07, 19:13
- Here's a crazy notion. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 11:25
- Here's a crazy notion. - yakaman, 2014-07-07, 11:33
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here -
CrazedOne,
2014-07-07, 11:03
- I know of one -
Xenos,
2014-07-07, 11:21
- I know of one - petetheduck, 2014-07-07, 11:24
- I know of one -
Xenos,
2014-07-07, 11:21
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - uberfoop, 2014-07-07, 11:06
- Vote with your dollars -
Kalamari,
2014-07-07, 11:54
- Vote with your dollars -
breitzen,
2014-07-07, 12:15
- Vote with your dollars -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 12:28
- Me too bro. Me too. - breitzen, 2014-07-07, 12:44
- Vote with your dollars - Schedonnardus, 2014-07-07, 14:25
- Vote with your dollars -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 12:28
- Vote with your dollars - Cody Miller, 2014-07-09, 17:48
- Vote with your dollars -
breitzen,
2014-07-07, 12:15
- Worst Bungie day ever. -
car15,
2014-07-07, 12:16
- Worst Bungie day ever. -
Schooly D,
2014-07-07, 12:17
- Worst Bungie day ever. - yakaman, 2014-07-07, 12:46
- Worst Bungie day ever. -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-08, 19:12
- I think this is ALWAYS the correct gif, isn't it? - Xenos, 2014-07-08, 22:53
- Worst Bungie day ever. -
Grizzlei,
2014-07-07, 12:32
- Worst Bungie day ever. -
yakaman,
2014-07-07, 12:42
- Worst Bungie day ever. - Kermit, 2014-07-07, 13:29
- Best option at the time -
RC,
2014-07-07, 16:03
- Best option at the time - Cody Miller, 2014-07-09, 17:51
- Worst Bungie day ever. - Phoenix_9286, 2014-07-07, 12:45
- Worst Bungie day ever. -
yakaman,
2014-07-07, 12:42
- Worst Bungie day ever. -
Schooly D,
2014-07-07, 12:17
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - DEEP_NNN, 2014-07-07, 12:32
- How does this keep getting worse? - katancik, 2014-07-07, 12:32
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." -
Jabberwok,
2014-07-07, 12:50
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." -
breitzen,
2014-07-07, 13:01
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." -
Jabberwok,
2014-07-07, 13:15
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Kermit,
2014-07-07, 13:22
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
car15,
2014-07-07, 13:35
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Jabberwok, 2014-07-08, 01:32
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Korny,
2014-07-07, 13:40
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
kidtsunami,
2014-07-07, 13:51
- Also, as a longtime Mac gamer. -
kidtsunami,
2014-07-07, 13:52
- Also, as a longtime Mac gamer. - Xenos, 2014-07-07, 17:56
- Of course it's not the same, that is the whole point... -
Jabberwok,
2014-07-08, 07:16
- Of course it's not the same, that is the whole point... - kidtsunami, 2014-07-08, 10:26
- Also, as a longtime Mac gamer. -
kidtsunami,
2014-07-07, 13:52
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 13:53
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Kermit,
2014-07-07, 15:10
- And for the first time in a long time... - Korny, 2014-07-07, 15:17
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 15:25
- Actually... -
Korny,
2014-07-07, 15:33
- Actually... -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 15:36
- Actually... -
Korny,
2014-07-07, 15:57
- Actually... - Ragashingo, 2014-07-07, 16:39
- Actually... - stabbim, 2014-07-07, 23:16
- Actually... -
Korny,
2014-07-07, 15:57
- Actually... -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-07, 15:36
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-07-07, 15:48
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Claude Errera,
2014-07-07, 19:15
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Xenos, 2014-07-07, 19:17
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Ragashingo, 2014-07-07, 19:21
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Yapok, 2014-07-07, 19:42
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Stephen Laughlin,
2014-07-08, 22:57
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Kermit, 2014-07-09, 05:41
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Malagate,
2014-07-09, 05:43
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Yapok,
2014-07-09, 06:07
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Malagate,
2014-07-09, 06:20
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Yapok, 2014-07-09, 06:44
- Agreed. - Kermit, 2014-07-09, 06:57
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-09, 09:09
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Claude Errera,
2014-07-09, 09:16
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Malagate, 2014-07-09, 09:32
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Cody Miller,
2014-07-09, 17:39
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-09, 18:08
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Cody Miller, 2014-07-09, 22:07
- Thank you for being reasonable. - General Vagueness, 2014-07-12, 20:06
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-09, 18:08
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Ragashingo, 2014-07-09, 10:27
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Claude Errera,
2014-07-09, 09:16
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Malagate,
2014-07-09, 06:20
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Yapok,
2014-07-09, 06:07
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Avateur,
2014-07-09, 18:33
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Claude Errera,
2014-07-09, 21:25
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Avateur,
2014-07-09, 21:28
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Kermit,
2014-07-10, 07:34
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
petetheduck,
2014-07-10, 08:57
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-10, 09:42
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Kermit, 2014-07-10, 10:23
- Thank you for being reasonable. - petetheduck, 2014-07-10, 10:33
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Avateur,
2014-07-10, 17:37
- Well said and fair enough. :) - Ragashingo, 2014-07-10, 17:45
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Stephen Laughlin, 2014-07-10, 15:48
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Ragashingo,
2014-07-10, 09:42
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
petetheduck,
2014-07-10, 08:57
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Kermit,
2014-07-10, 07:34
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Avateur,
2014-07-09, 21:28
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Claude Errera,
2014-07-09, 21:25
- Actually... -
Korny,
2014-07-07, 15:33
- Thank you for being reasonable. - Kalamari, 2014-07-10, 14:04
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Kermit,
2014-07-07, 15:10
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
kidtsunami,
2014-07-07, 13:51
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
car15,
2014-07-07, 13:35
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." -
breitzen,
2014-07-07, 13:42
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." - INSANEdrive, 2014-07-07, 13:47
- Thank you for being reasonable. -
Kermit,
2014-07-07, 13:22
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." -
Jabberwok,
2014-07-07, 13:15
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." -
DaDerga,
2014-07-07, 13:42
- DBO: welcome to your second butthurt outing -
yakaman,
2014-07-07, 14:01
- DBO: welcome to your second butthurt outing - DaDerga, 2014-07-08, 11:51
- DBO: welcome to your second butthurt outing -
yakaman,
2014-07-07, 14:01
- "...we walked uphill in the snow both ways..." -
breitzen,
2014-07-07, 13:01
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here -
unoudid,
2014-07-07, 13:14
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here -
katancik,
2014-07-07, 14:53
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - unoudid, 2014-07-07, 22:51
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here -
katancik,
2014-07-07, 14:53
- Unbelievably disappointing... - GrimBrotherIII, 2014-07-07, 14:53
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - RaichuKFM, 2014-07-07, 15:56
- I think this is an industry-wide problem with AAA games. -
Leviathan,
2014-07-07, 17:47
- I think this is an industry-wide problem with AAA games. - Avateur, 2014-07-07, 19:54
- Well said. - Ragashingo, 2014-07-07, 21:19
- I think this is an industry-wide problem with AAA games. - Jabberwok, 2014-07-08, 01:43
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - CrazedOne, 2014-07-08, 01:42
- Xbox players butthurt thread, check in here - ChanningC, 2014-07-10, 21:47