A variation on this idea... (Destiny)

by kapowaz, Sunday, August 10, 2014, 12:01 (3567 days ago) @ ZackDark

I do like the idea of tiered rewards, but I feel like (as opposed to a firefight, say) there is more scope for strikes being used to advance the story of Destiny. With this in mind, I wouldn't be quite so keen to make non-completion a common occurrence. It might work better to always allow teams to complete each strike (i.e. infinite lives, since the time a fireteam has to complete a strike together is the de facto constraint), but instead give the bronze/silver/gold reward ranking once you complete, based on how quickly/efficiently you can complete it.

World of Warcraft has a similar concept for timed dungeon runs, where you can win exclusive cosmetic item upgrades. The important distinction there is that it normalises* gear to a set maximum level, so as to prevent players making it easier with better gear. Ultimately I have to wonder if Destiny wouldn't need something similar to ensure that max-level challenges can stay the same relative difficulty even after better gear becomes available.

*incidentally, this is one of the many reasons why it's inaccurate to say that games like WoW are more about gear than skill.

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When death is of little consequence - RC, 2014-08-10, 08:32
- When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 09:19
  - When death is of little consequence - RC, 2014-08-10, 12:49
    - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 14:52
- When death is of little consequence - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 09:35
  - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 09:38
  - I quite liked that suggestion - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 09:47
  - Maybe Nightfall Strikes? - RC, 2014-08-10, 10:08
  - When death is of little consequence - kapowaz, 2014-08-10, 10:14
    - Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 10:24
      - Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - DaDerga, 2014-08-10, 10:33
        
        Pretty much - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 10:45
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 10:48
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - DaDerga, 2014-08-10, 10:52
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 10:56
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 11:18
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Phoenix_9286, 2014-08-10, 11:20
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-10, 14:51
        
        Yep - Got a bronze Haha - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-10, 15:49
      - A variation on this idea... - kapowaz, 2014-08-10, 12:01
    - Alternative - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 15:51
      - I agree - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-10, 16:02
      - Alternative - DaDerga, 2014-08-10, 16:55
      - It'd kill matchmaking - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 17:00
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - petetheduck, 2014-08-10, 17:26
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 17:43
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - stabbim, 2014-08-12, 21:24
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 20:13
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 01:08
      - Alternative - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 01:04
      - Alternative - electricpirate, 2014-08-13, 08:02
- When death is of little consequence - Speedracer513, 2014-08-10, 11:09
- When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-10, 18:35
  - Where life had no value, death, sometimes, had its price. - uberfoop, 2014-08-10, 18:40
  - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - RC, 2014-08-10, 19:54
    - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 20:20
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-10, 20:23
        
        That's very possible. - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 20:32
        
        That's very possible. - Xenos, 2014-08-10, 21:41
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Speedracer513, 2014-08-10, 22:14
    - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-10, 20:22
    - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-10, 21:35
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 21:53
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - bluerunner, 2014-08-11, 11:01
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-11, 17:44
        
        Eh - ZackDark, 2014-08-11, 18:08
        
        Eh - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-11, 18:58
        
        Eh - ZackDark, 2014-08-12, 00:37
        
        Eh - Speedracer513, 2014-08-12, 11:20
        
        True enough - ZackDark, 2014-08-12, 12:29
        
        ... - Ragashingo, 2014-08-12, 12:36
        
        True enough - Speedracer513, 2014-08-12, 12:52
        
        Why, thank you - ZackDark, 2014-08-12, 13:00
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - RC, 2014-08-12, 13:53
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-12, 17:47
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Ragashingo, 2014-08-12, 18:52
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-12, 21:09
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Claude Errera, 2014-08-13, 22:34
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-13, 22:55
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Cody Miller, 2014-08-13, 23:37
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - uberfoop, 2014-08-13, 23:48
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Claude Errera, 2014-08-12, 18:58
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-12, 20:44
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - RC, 2014-08-13, 11:06
- I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Bones, 2014-08-10, 18:49
  - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-10, 19:34
    - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - ZackDark, 2014-08-11, 03:53
  - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 20:20
    - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 20:37
      - Vidmasters - yakaman, 2014-08-12, 09:56
        
        Vidmasters - Cody Miller, 2014-08-12, 12:32
    - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - DEEP_NNN, 2014-08-10, 21:03
  - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 20:39
- When death is of little consequence - Kalamari, 2014-08-10, 19:00
  - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 19:16
    - When death is of little consequence - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 20:42
      - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 21:36
        
        When death is of little consequence - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 22:21
        
        When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-12, 16:05
        
        When death is of little consequence - RC, 2014-08-12, 16:54
      - When death is of little consequence - stabbim, 2014-08-13, 13:25
        
        When death is of little consequence - Avateur, 2014-08-13, 16:37
    - When death is of little consequence - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 09:03
      - When death is of little consequence - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 09:04
- Needs Iron skull with appropriate loot. - Numinar, 2014-08-11, 01:27
- Has no one considered... - Malagate, 2014-08-11, 06:29
  - And Bounties - kidtsunami, 2014-08-11, 06:33
    - And Bounties - Malagate, 2014-08-11, 06:46
      - The Day 1 Invasion of Whinging Will Overwhelm - kidtsunami, 2014-08-11, 06:58
      - And Bounties - bluerunner, 2014-08-11, 08:01
        
        And Bounties - Malagate, 2014-08-11, 12:26
    - And Bounties - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-11, 07:52
      - Yeah, got the 9000XP without dying one a few times - kidtsunami, 2014-08-11, 08:07
    - No! Destiny must pound more nails into our dicks! - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-08-11, 08:08
      - Geez, dude. - Kermit, 2014-08-11, 08:35
        
        Penny Arcade reference. - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 08:56
        
        I miss Duke controllers. - bluerunner, 2014-08-11, 09:49
        
        Seconded. - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-11, 10:44
        
        Nope. They made me miss white and black everytime... - ZackDark, 2014-08-11, 14:47
        
        Okay. - Kermit, 2014-08-11, 10:22
        
        Forgot it was Halo they were playing, TBH - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-08-11, 14:25
      - No! Destiny must pound more nails into our dicks! - Avateur, 2014-08-11, 17:44

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