I can't believe I'm reading these words. (Destiny)

by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Sunday, August 10, 2014, 20:20 (3566 days ago) @ Bones

I can't speak for others, but when I found the only penalty for playing poorly was a longer respawn and a longer walk, I realized that none of my actions mattered and I had no personal investment. There was no drama because there was no conflict because I was always going to win as long as I had more time, which I always did.

I had this covered a year and a half ago :-p

http://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?id=7153

So, when you undertake a challenge in a video game, and you realize punishment exists for failure, then something is now on the line! This enhances the moment to moment pleasure of playing, through tension.

Thinking about punishment enhances the now by increasing tension. Thinking about reward devalues the now since you realize the now is only a stepping stone to get what you really want.

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When death is of little consequence - RC, 2014-08-10, 08:32
- When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 09:19
  - When death is of little consequence - RC, 2014-08-10, 12:49
    - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 14:52
- When death is of little consequence - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 09:35
  - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 09:38
  - I quite liked that suggestion - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 09:47
  - Maybe Nightfall Strikes? - RC, 2014-08-10, 10:08
  - When death is of little consequence - kapowaz, 2014-08-10, 10:14
    - Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 10:24
      - Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - DaDerga, 2014-08-10, 10:33
        
        Pretty much - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 10:45
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 10:48
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - DaDerga, 2014-08-10, 10:52
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 10:56
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 11:18
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - Phoenix_9286, 2014-08-10, 11:20
        
        Maybe tiered rewards at failure? - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-10, 14:51
        
        Yep - Got a bronze Haha - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-10, 15:49
      - A variation on this idea... - kapowaz, 2014-08-10, 12:01
    - Alternative - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 15:51
      - I agree - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-10, 16:02
      - Alternative - DaDerga, 2014-08-10, 16:55
      - It'd kill matchmaking - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 17:00
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - petetheduck, 2014-08-10, 17:26
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 17:43
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - stabbim, 2014-08-12, 21:24
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 20:13
        
        It'd kill matchmaking - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 01:08
      - Alternative - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 01:04
      - Alternative - electricpirate, 2014-08-13, 08:02
- When death is of little consequence - Speedracer513, 2014-08-10, 11:09
- When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-10, 18:35
  - Where life had no value, death, sometimes, had its price. - uberfoop, 2014-08-10, 18:40
  - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - RC, 2014-08-10, 19:54
    - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 20:20
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-10, 20:23
        
        That's very possible. - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 20:32
        
        That's very possible. - Xenos, 2014-08-10, 21:41
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Speedracer513, 2014-08-10, 22:14
    - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-10, 20:22
    - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-10, 21:35
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 21:53
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - bluerunner, 2014-08-11, 11:01
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-11, 17:44
        
        Eh - ZackDark, 2014-08-11, 18:08
        
        Eh - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-11, 18:58
        
        Eh - ZackDark, 2014-08-12, 00:37
        
        Eh - Speedracer513, 2014-08-12, 11:20
        
        True enough - ZackDark, 2014-08-12, 12:29
        
        ... - Ragashingo, 2014-08-12, 12:36
        
        True enough - Speedracer513, 2014-08-12, 12:52
        
        Why, thank you - ZackDark, 2014-08-12, 13:00
      - When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - RC, 2014-08-12, 13:53
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-12, 17:47
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Ragashingo, 2014-08-12, 18:52
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-12, 21:09
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Claude Errera, 2014-08-13, 22:34
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-13, 22:55
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Cody Miller, 2014-08-13, 23:37
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - uberfoop, 2014-08-13, 23:48
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Claude Errera, 2014-08-12, 18:58
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-12, 20:44
        
        When death is of no consequence, there is no challenge. - RC, 2014-08-13, 11:06
- I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Bones, 2014-08-10, 18:49
  - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-10, 19:34
    - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - ZackDark, 2014-08-11, 03:53
  - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Cody Miller, 2014-08-10, 20:20
    - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 20:37
      - Vidmasters - yakaman, 2014-08-12, 09:56
        
        Vidmasters - Cody Miller, 2014-08-12, 12:32
    - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - DEEP_NNN, 2014-08-10, 21:03
  - I can't believe I'm reading these words. - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 20:39
- When death is of little consequence - Kalamari, 2014-08-10, 19:00
  - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 19:16
    - When death is of little consequence - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 20:42
      - When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-10, 21:36
        
        When death is of little consequence - Avateur, 2014-08-10, 22:21
        
        When death is of little consequence - Ragashingo, 2014-08-12, 16:05
        
        When death is of little consequence - RC, 2014-08-12, 16:54
      - When death is of little consequence - stabbim, 2014-08-13, 13:25
        
        When death is of little consequence - Avateur, 2014-08-13, 16:37
    - When death is of little consequence - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 09:03
      - When death is of little consequence - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 09:04
- Needs Iron skull with appropriate loot. - Numinar, 2014-08-11, 01:27
- Has no one considered... - Malagate, 2014-08-11, 06:29
  - And Bounties - kidtsunami, 2014-08-11, 06:33
    - And Bounties - Malagate, 2014-08-11, 06:46
      - The Day 1 Invasion of Whinging Will Overwhelm - kidtsunami, 2014-08-11, 06:58
      - And Bounties - bluerunner, 2014-08-11, 08:01
        
        And Bounties - Malagate, 2014-08-11, 12:26
    - And Bounties - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-11, 07:52
      - Yeah, got the 9000XP without dying one a few times - kidtsunami, 2014-08-11, 08:07
    - No! Destiny must pound more nails into our dicks! - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-08-11, 08:08
      - Geez, dude. - Kermit, 2014-08-11, 08:35
        
        Penny Arcade reference. - kapowaz, 2014-08-11, 08:56
        
        I miss Duke controllers. - bluerunner, 2014-08-11, 09:49
        
        Seconded. - INSANEdrive, 2014-08-11, 10:44
        
        Nope. They made me miss white and black everytime... - ZackDark, 2014-08-11, 14:47
        
        Okay. - Kermit, 2014-08-11, 10:22
        
        Forgot it was Halo they were playing, TBH - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-08-11, 14:25
      - No! Destiny must pound more nails into our dicks! - Avateur, 2014-08-11, 17:44

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