Update's Up! (Destiny)
Now I'll admit that this is a very specific example. But I don't see the downside to including the numbers. Giving the player more information is rarely a bad thing.
Hand Cannons have exactly three possible impact values. There's no in between. Your scenario is impossible. Hand cannons in the same archetype will do the same amount of damage all things being equal.There are low impact high rof (Devil you Don't, Word of Crota)
There are medium impact medium rate of fire (Faction hand Cannons, TFWPKY, Fatebringer, Devil You Know)
There are high impact Low Rof hand cannons (Timur's Lash, Sir Isaac)You only need to try one from each type to know how the archetype performs.
Okay. I think you're being kind of nit-picky, but if you replace handcannons with scout-rifles, sniper rifles, or pretty much any other weapon in the game, the argument holds.
The downside for including numbers is that just looking at a number isn't going to tell you the final damage done to an enemy. It's superfluous, and has you worrying about numbers instead of actually playing the game. More numbers = less immersion in an FPS.
I'm not asking for the final damage (It would be nice, but there's too many unexposed variables). I'm just asking for a more precise way to compare guns before I buy them.
If you think those mock-ups I made with the numbers at the side of the bars flip the switch from "immersive" to "not immersive"... I don't know how to respond to that.
Complete thread:
- Update's Up! -
dogcow,
2015-03-26, 20:02
- Update's Up! -
Speedracer513,
2015-03-26, 20:09
- Update's Up! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-26, 20:13
- Update's Up! -
dogcow,
2015-03-26, 20:18
- Update's Up! -
CyberKN,
2015-03-26, 20:23
- Vault vault. - uberfoop, 2015-03-27, 04:18
- Update's Up! -
CyberKN,
2015-03-26, 20:23
- Update's Up! -
Speedracer513,
2015-03-26, 20:19
- It's impossible to tell, but... - CyberKN, 2015-03-26, 20:29
- Update's Up! -
dogcow,
2015-03-26, 20:18
- Update's Up! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-26, 20:13
- *sigh* - Penthesilean, 2015-03-26, 20:40
- Facepalm -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 20:46
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
ZackDark,
2015-03-26, 20:49
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 20:53
- Maybe they already do? -
ZackDark,
2015-03-26, 21:08
- Maybe they already do? - stabbim, 2015-03-27, 01:54
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-26, 21:20
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 21:33
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-26, 21:38
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 21:48
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-26, 21:58
- More space in the immediate future -
Earendil,
2015-03-26, 22:45
- More space in the immediate future -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 22:48
- That's an easy one... - slycrel, 2015-03-26, 23:42
- More space in the immediate future -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-26, 23:15
- More space in the immediate future -
Leviathan,
2015-03-27, 00:11
- +1 - kidtsunami, 2015-03-27, 11:32
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 16:32
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 17:07
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. - Kahzgul, 2015-03-27, 23:21
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Kermit,
2015-03-27, 17:09
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 17:11
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 23:26
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. - Ragashingo, 2015-03-27, 23:52
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-30, 01:32
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 23:26
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 17:11
- Compare to ME3, CoD, WoW, etc.. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 17:07
- More space in the immediate future -
Leviathan,
2015-03-27, 00:11
- More space in the immediate future -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 22:48
- More space in the immediate future -
Earendil,
2015-03-26, 22:45
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-26, 21:58
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
Leviathan,
2015-03-26, 23:23
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting - stabbim, 2015-03-30, 02:52
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 21:48
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-26, 21:38
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 21:33
- Purging is probably fast but reloading... -
scarab,
2015-03-27, 15:41
- Purging is probably fast but reloading... - General Vagueness, 2015-03-29, 22:58
- Maybe they already do? -
ZackDark,
2015-03-26, 21:08
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-26, 20:53
- Never Fear! Cody has the perfect solution! Like always... -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-26, 21:20
- Cody's right. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-27, 00:47
- Another "why do I bother reading these?" weekly update - DreadPirateWes, 2015-03-27, 04:04
- I just want an option to roll in my loot - Durandal, 2015-03-27, 10:22
- Cody's right. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-27, 00:47
- Facepalm -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-26, 21:35
- Technically untrue... -
CyberKN,
2015-03-26, 21:42
- Technically untrue... -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-26, 23:08
- Technically untrue... - Leviathan, 2015-03-26, 23:54
- Technically untrue... -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-26, 23:08
- Technically untrue... -
CyberKN,
2015-03-26, 21:42
- Facepalm -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-26, 23:06
- Since no one HAS to go to Tower for Vault anymore... - ZackDark, 2015-03-26, 23:15
- Facepalm -
Earendil,
2015-03-27, 15:57
- Facepalm -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 16:44
- Facepalm - Cody Miller, 2015-03-27, 16:59
- And I counter-quote with this -
Earendil,
2015-03-27, 19:36
- And I counter-quote with this - Kahzgul, 2015-03-27, 23:45
- Facepalm -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 16:44
- Frankly, you are asking too much -
Monochron,
2015-03-27, 17:22
- Frankly, you are asking too much -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 23:46
- Frankly, you are asking too much -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-27, 23:54
- Here's just one of many Google results -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-28, 04:45
- Here's just one of many Google results -
Claude Errera,
2015-03-28, 13:07
- Here's just one of many Google results - Cody Miller, 2015-03-28, 14:28
- Here's just one of many Google results -
Claude Errera,
2015-03-28, 13:07
- Here's just one of many Google results -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-28, 04:45
- Frankly, you are asking too much - Monochron, 2015-03-30, 16:07
- Frankly, you are asking too much -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-27, 23:54
- Frankly, you are asking too much -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 23:46
- I'm pretty sure they don't de-load the Tower when Vaulting -
ZackDark,
2015-03-26, 20:49
- I can finally delete my second warlock for a Titan :) - unoudid, 2015-03-26, 21:00
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-26, 23:33
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
slycrel,
2015-03-26, 23:45
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
Leviathan,
2015-03-27, 00:12
- +1 - INSANEdrive, 2015-03-27, 00:20
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
Kahzgul,
2015-03-27, 16:36
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-27, 18:27
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke - Kahzgul, 2015-03-27, 23:47
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-27, 18:27
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke - Vortech, 2015-03-28, 01:06
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
Leviathan,
2015-03-27, 00:12
- Why you keep weapons -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 01:35
- You forgot nostalgia/coolness factor - Dagoonite, 2015-03-27, 01:52
- Expanding Misc. section to 24 is a joke -
slycrel,
2015-03-26, 23:45
- The best part of the update. - INSANEdrive, 2015-03-27, 00:42
- ITT: Things are getting better but everything is still shit - RC, 2015-03-27, 01:39
- Destiny being on last gen consoles was the biggest mistake -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-03-27, 08:13
- They were even a small slice of the total sales. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 13:42
- COD primarily moves on 360, though. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-27, 13:55
- My wallet and I completely disagree. :) -
Leviathan,
2015-03-27, 13:46
- +1 - Kermit, 2015-03-27, 14:02
- They were even a small slice of the total sales. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 13:42
- Does anyone still have 3 identical copies of a weapon? -
scarab,
2015-03-27, 16:20
- Does anyone still have 3 identical copies of a weapon? - Kahzgul, 2015-03-27, 16:49
- Does anyone still have 3 identical copies of a weapon? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-27, 17:05
- Does anyone still have 3 identical copies of a weapon? -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 17:08
- Does anyone still have 3 identical copies of a weapon? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-27, 17:12
- Does anyone still have 3 identical copies of a weapon? -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-27, 17:08
- Yep -
unoudid,
2015-03-27, 17:22
- Yoinks! Is that just to avoid swapping via the vault? -
scarab,
2015-03-27, 18:13
- Yoinks! Is that just to avoid swapping via the vault? -
unoudid,
2015-03-27, 18:27
- But if you delete 2 of each then you gain 26 slots... -
scarab,
2015-03-27, 18:36
- But if you delete 2 of each then you gain 26 slots... - unoudid, 2015-03-27, 18:46
- But if you delete 2 of each then you gain 26 slots... -
scarab,
2015-03-27, 18:36
- Yoinks! Is that just to avoid swapping via the vault? -
unoudid,
2015-03-27, 18:27
- Yoinks! Is that just to avoid swapping via the vault? -
scarab,
2015-03-27, 18:13
- Update's Up! -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-29, 22:04
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-29, 22:58
- Then why do we have numbers for INT/DIS/STR? - CyberKN, 2015-03-30, 00:00
- Then give the percentage...? - ZackDark, 2015-03-30, 01:23
- Update's Up! -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-30, 02:11
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 03:59
- There's so much wrong with this post, but I need sleep. - CyberKN, 2015-03-30, 04:26
- Update's Up! -
ZackDark,
2015-03-30, 05:38
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 05:46
- Update's Up! - ZackDark, 2015-03-30, 05:56
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 05:46
- Update's Up! -
CyberKN,
2015-03-30, 18:27
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 18:37
- Update's Up! -
CyberKN,
2015-03-30, 18:48
- Update's Up! - Cody Miller, 2015-03-30, 18:51
- Update's Up! -
CyberKN,
2015-03-30, 18:48
- Update's Up! - General Vagueness, 2015-03-30, 19:15
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 18:37
- Update's Up! -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-30, 18:41
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 18:49
- Update's Up! - General Vagueness, 2015-03-30, 19:20
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 18:49
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-30, 03:59
- Update's Up! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-29, 22:58
- Update's Up! -
Speedracer513,
2015-03-26, 20:09