Dissecting Frogs (Destiny)
A frog is a wonderful thing. We can marvel at how it functions and how it is specifically adapted to its ecosystem. If we saw a frog for the first time, it would be really cool to see it jump for the first time. How does it make those noises and why? Did it just eat a fly by shooting its tongue out? That is awesome! But if we're more curious, we might want to see how everything works. What parts of it's body allow it to perform so well. Eventually you open up the frog and you've figured out how all the parts work, but you've got a dead frog. It no longer elicits marvel.
I agree with you and with what Cheaply is saying too.
The reception of this type of content has so much more to do with gauging expectations. If this had been announced on twitter last Wednesday with the words, "come by and visit on Tuesday" it could get hype, but it wouldn't balloon into the expectations we got. Honestly, I love the new PoE and the strike, but it isn't worth a month of announcements.
The mission is comically bad in context. But what if Bungie had only told us about the crucible changes and the gun updates before this launch? If the mission just showed up the on the Director and led to a new strike, everyone would be talking about how they just got to do a new thing they were surprised by, rather than feel like they somehow got slighted by free content. Light Level change? Imagine if they hadn't announced the new system but let people discover by playing that they were starting to get gear above 320? Let people have at it until the Friday weekly update and then explain in fine detail the nuances of the leveling system. Chroma? put the content into the the initial download, but don't activate it until after it is explained in the update so people don't spend money on a system they don't understand. Everyone is excited and Bungie scores a win in the community goodwill column.
Contrast that to what we experienced and you can see the problem. We experienced a dead frog. We received lectures and diagrams explaining exactly what would happen in every system before it even arrived. Rather than enjoying it for what it is, we already knew the mechanisms that would allow us to min/max our time to get loot.
However, this isn't totally Bungie's fault. The Destiny community, unlike any other gaming community I've been a part of (which isn't vast), wants everything explained in detail ahead of time. Or at least, Bungie thinks they do. I have no numbers to back this up, but I'm betting that the majority of players would be fine to be kept in the dark, but there is a vocal portion of the community that needs to know everything ahead of time and that portion has the avenues of communication to shift Bungie's behavior.
[edit] I should add that I'm part of the problem and I consumed the hyping materials. For what it is worth, I'm really happy with the content. I just think I would have enjoyed it more had it been a surprise. It is appropriate for Bungie to hype TTK, but this type of content might warrant a different delivery method.
TLDR: I wish Bungie would stop sharing so much.
Complete thread:
- [Concerned Dad Voice] "I'm not mad, I'm just dissapointed" -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 15:42
- You'll really love the PlayStation exclusive quest... - Korny, 2016-04-13, 15:57
- Best update yet purely for comedy. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-13, 16:30
- Best update yet purely for comedy. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-04-13, 16:31
- Haha. Yeah, that was a good one too! Love that quest. - Funkmon, 2016-04-13, 16:33
- The Borderlands Effect. -
Korny,
2016-04-13, 16:34
- +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-13, 16:45
- Best update yet purely for comedy. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 16:43
- It is good. It's just short. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-13, 16:48
- You're wrong and you should feel bad ;p -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 16:57
- It's fun, like a bite of pizza is still good. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-13, 17:24
- Thanks. Now I want Pizza :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-13, 17:38
- It's fun, like a bite of pizza is still good. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-13, 17:24
- You're wrong and you should feel bad ;p -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 16:57
- It is good. It's just short. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-13, 16:48
- Best update yet purely for comedy. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-04-13, 16:31
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-13, 16:42
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-13, 16:45
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 16:48
- Like a fun sized candy bar. - Funkmon, 2016-04-13, 17:37
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 16:48
- Also... - slycrel, 2016-04-13, 17:05
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
stabbim,
2016-04-14, 04:36
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-14, 05:05
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-14, 13:19
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-14, 13:32
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. - MacAddictXIV, 2016-04-14, 13:35
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-14, 13:32
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-14, 13:19
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-14, 05:05
- Bad communication. That's all this boils down to. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-13, 16:45
- [Concerned Dad Voice] "I'm not mad, I'm just dissapointed" -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-13, 16:44
- [Concerned Dad Voice] "Go back to the basement, son" - Kuga, 2016-04-13, 17:07
- [Concerned Dad Voice] "I'm not mad, I'm just dissapointed" -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-13, 17:06
- I wonder -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-04-13, 18:18
- I wonder -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-13, 19:21
- I wonder -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-04-13, 19:43
- Screw that. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-13, 20:47
- Screw that. -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 21:00
- 2 week SRL every quarter please, or 1 week every 2 months. - dogcow, 2016-04-13, 21:05
- Screw that. -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-13, 21:19
- Screw that. - Robot Chickens, 2016-04-13, 21:45
- I don't get it. - CyberKN, 2016-04-13, 21:21
- Screw that. -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 21:00
- Screw that. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-13, 20:47
- Sorry to interrupt... -
yakaman,
2016-04-13, 20:44
- Sorry to interrupt... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-13, 20:46
- Expansion #2 - CyberKN, 2016-04-13, 20:46
- I wonder -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-04-13, 19:43
- I wonder -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-13, 19:21
- I wonder -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-04-13, 18:18
- Dissecting Frogs -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 18:01
- Very well said. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-13, 18:14
- Interesting point. -
slycrel,
2016-04-13, 19:37
- Interesting point. -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 20:13
- Interesting point. - Cody Miller, 2016-04-13, 20:18
- Interesting point. -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 20:13
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
Korny,
2016-04-13, 19:48
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:05
- I somewhat disagree -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 20:22
- I somewhat disagree -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:45
- I somewhat disagree -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-13, 21:39
- I somewhat disagree -
Mid7night,
2016-04-14, 01:33
- I somewhat disagree -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-14, 02:51
- I somewhat disagree -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-14, 15:15
- I somewhat disagree -
narcogen,
2016-04-15, 01:46
- I somewhat disagree - Cody Miller, 2016-04-15, 03:11
- I somewhat disagree - cheapLEY, 2016-04-15, 02:36
- I somewhat disagree -
narcogen,
2016-04-15, 01:46
- I somewhat disagree -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-14, 15:15
- I somewhat disagree -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-14, 02:51
- I somewhat disagree -
Mid7night,
2016-04-14, 01:33
- I somewhat disagree -
cheapLEY,
2016-04-13, 21:39
- I somewhat disagree -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:45
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-13, 20:28
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:37
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-04-18, 12:10
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament - Korny, 2016-04-18, 12:39
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-04-18, 12:10
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
Korny,
2016-04-13, 20:40
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament - Cody Miller, 2016-04-13, 20:44
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
narcogen,
2016-04-14, 08:11
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-14, 14:36
- How I imagine Cody - Robot Chickens, 2016-04-14, 14:41
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-14, 14:36
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:37
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
Vortech,
2016-04-13, 20:31
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament - Cody Miller, 2016-04-13, 20:33
- The medium is the message - Robot Chickens, 2016-04-13, 20:45
- I somewhat disagree -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 20:22
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 20:32
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:49
- Fair -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 20:54
- Fair - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-13, 20:55
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament - dogcow, 2016-04-13, 20:58
- Fair -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-13, 20:54
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:49
- Either less more often, or more less often. -
narcogen,
2016-04-14, 01:04
- Either less more often, or more less often. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-14, 02:02
- Either less more often, or more less often. - cheapLEY, 2016-04-14, 03:06
- Either less more often, or more less often. -
Kermit,
2016-04-14, 14:39
- Either less more often, or more less often. - Funkmon, 2016-04-14, 15:31
- Either less more often, or more less often. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-14, 02:02
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament - Cody Miller, 2016-04-14, 15:08
- The problem is that Bungie's put into a bit of a predicament -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-13, 20:05
- Perfectly Sized Update -
squidnh3,
2016-04-13, 22:13
- +7 -
Beorn,
2016-04-14, 04:00
- x 10973731.568539(55) 1/m - Funkmon, 2016-04-14, 04:06
- Perfectly Sized Update -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-14, 05:49
- Perfectly Sized Update -
squidnh3,
2016-04-14, 14:40
- Perfectly Sized Update -
Funkmon,
2016-04-14, 15:28
- I've seen the dress, it isn't pretty. - ProbablyLast, 2016-04-14, 15:49
- See my response to Kermit's post :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-14, 15:35
- Perfectly Sized Update -
Funkmon,
2016-04-14, 15:28
- Perfectly Sized Update -
Kermit,
2016-04-14, 15:00
- Perfectly Sized Update -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-14, 15:34
- Perfectly Sized Update - Kermit, 2016-04-17, 22:57
- Perfectly Sized Update -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-14, 15:34
- Perfectly Sized Update -
squidnh3,
2016-04-14, 14:40
- +7 -
Beorn,
2016-04-14, 04:00