Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? (Destiny)
by narcogen 
, Andover, Massachusetts, Friday, February 05, 2016, 07:43 (3003 days ago) @ dogcow
This.
As it currently stands, games with laggy people are lame for both the laggers and non-laggers. To me it sounds like they will be altering the net code such that games with laggy people will only suck for the laggers and not the green bars. Sounds like the fairest solution they could come up with.
This game doesn't take a ton of bandwidth, we're taking 1mbps, course if you only have 512k - 768k bps up then you'll have troubles...
Lag is latency, not bandwidth. I have 100Mbps symmetrical, but a ping of 200-300.
That said, if I also had low bandwidth, that would make things worse, but there are people around the world with perfectly serviceable broadband connections that in no way need "fixing"-- they are just located far from Bungie's servers and far from other players. Latency is an unavoidable consequence of that.
Resolving conflicts in game state this way based on latency under those conditions is essentially geographical discrimination. You can call it the best compromise, you can call it a technical solution, but there is one thing you can't call it, and that's "fair".
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- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:09
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Xenos,
2016-02-04, 21:18
- I honestly thought all of those were jokes -
ZackDark,
2016-02-04, 21:28
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:36
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- You just need more reasons! - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 21:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:54
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- Apathy Wins! -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:31
- Apathy Wins!
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 22:31
- You first. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:33
- no u -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:36
- no u
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:10
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:51
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- You first.
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 22:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Yup. They start with false equivalency. - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:27
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 23:22
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Someone ought to be sorry. Paul, perhaps. (rant) - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:41
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
rellekh,
2016-02-04, 23:28
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... - Korny, 2016-02-05, 18:30
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 16:43
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Oh, god. The Pedant in me needs a cigarette. - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:17
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 18:27
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:51
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? - cheapLEY, 2016-02-06, 20:27
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 21:50
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? - Xenos, 2016-02-07, 02:28
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- Bungee does play their dogfood - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:18
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 21:01
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- Kinda like those ASMR movies in the other thread. CREEPY -
Pyromancy,
2016-02-06, 22:42
- Sounds like they were taken by her trainer - kidtsunami, 2016-02-10, 17:57
- Kinda like those ASMR movies in the other thread. CREEPY
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- As I suspected... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 22:40
- As I suspected... - dogcow, 2016-02-07, 02:10
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:28
- Stop being old. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 03:35
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 05:12
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Man, if I could get away with that... -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 08:16
- Man, if I could get away with that...
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work.
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 11:44
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- Next find which song makes them not randomly hate you. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:51
- I have one, but it's in German. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:21
- Stop being old.
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- I honestly think you won't notice too much - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:21
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:54
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 19:02
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 17:42
- Fix your internet - Blackt1g3r, 2016-02-05, 17:48
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:06
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - CyberKN, 2016-02-05, 21:39
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 18:50
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:35
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs - Cody Miller, 2016-02-05, 16:28
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:50
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- Getting it BOTH WAYS - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 13:44
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 14:08
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- Space Magic 1.0 -
CyberKN,
2016-02-05, 20:28
- Space Magic 1.0
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- My confession - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 18:53
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- Wireless is just bad -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 19:03
- Wireless is just bad - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 19:20
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm fine topping out at 450Mbps - kidtsunami, 2016-02-08, 12:18
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 19:14
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-05, 19:32
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 18:57
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- +1 - Kermit, 2016-02-08, 14:21
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession - Ragashingo, 2016-02-06, 00:05
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-07, 19:38
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession - Kahzgul, 2016-02-08, 22:13
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:37
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 12:00
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- You are lucky! -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 18:20
- You are lucky!
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- Metro Detroit: 3mbps ATT @ $30. 10mbps Comcast @ $30 - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 15:30
- I'm lucky - Ragashingo, 2016-02-05, 16:22
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- Alnetworks de Tocqueville -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:30
- Netocracy in America -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:39
- Netocracy in America
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-04, 21:47
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-04, 21:49
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 22:03
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:15
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Ragashingo, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
squidnh3,
2016-02-04, 22:28
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- Agreed. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:42
- Agreed.
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - dogcow, 2016-02-04, 22:05
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:23
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- Ogres... - Mid7night, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- BOOM! Netcodeshot! - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:16
- #thab