No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... (Destiny)
deeJ is probably doing other crap, Urk too. I think Cozmo, as a veteran Redditor, may see value in pointless speculation of others' motives.
I thought it was a humorous-yet-gentle poke at people with bad connections in general. It's pretty stupid to read it, gasp, and use your embroidered hand fan to calm you from your indignation while you think of a way to whine about how you are being picked on. It was clearly just a quick joke that he probably didn't even think twice about because of how dumb someone would be to misinterpret it.
What was humorous about it? Where was the joke?
In the Great Big World of Comedy, that's known as "ribbing", which isn't intended to cause hearty guffaws so much as signaling affection towards another for their faults. In this case towards those with subpar connections.
There are no lines to read between here. He says that you'll be losing more often, and that that will give you incentive to "fix your connection".
Yes, that sounds perfectly fine, and people who can do something to improve their connection will indeed feel the incentive to do something about it. You can't do anything about it? Perfectly fine, his statement wasn't aimed at you.
If you have a good connection, it's a funny joke at the expense of those who don't. Ha ha!If you don't, it's just a statement that people find the idea that your not so great multiplayer experience is going to get a bit worse unless you do something about it, which you probably can't because if you could have, you would have by now.
Ha ha! I'm peeing myself laughing.
I honestly can't believe people are making as big a deal out of this as they are.
If you want to play the "it's only a game card" here, feel free. Then again, you felt it important enough to come in and call people who think Bungie's being insensitive here stupid, so, yeah.Bungie didn't think twice about this. They didn't even think once about it.
I read into the line neither malice nor condescension. It is the fact that no thought was put into it that is bothersome; the idea that if you have lag, that is your fault-- which is the converse of the complaint from the low latency players, that they are being "punished" because when players lag out and don't take damage, it is not THEIR fault.
But see, it kind of is your fault.
Do you have a below-average connection? That's not necessarily your fault.
Are you choosing to play an online-only game, knowing that you have a bad connection? That is your fault.
Are you knowingly going into the competitive matchmaking knowing that your bad connection will cause a negative experience for others? That is your fault.
And now Bungie is making some changes to improve the experience for the vast majority of those with a halfway decent connection at the expense of the few shed-net folks who knowingly make the experience worse for others?
I think it's disingenuous to act offended at the fact that someone dared to imply that you can get a better connection before hopping back in to the competitive portion of the game (especially in a playlist where winning is doubly important).
The idea that it's funny to some people makes it worse, not better.
The idea that folks with godawful connections feel like they should be catered to above the vast majority is a little worse than a playful jab, I think... but that's just me.
At the end of the day, it was just one guy at Bungie who made the statement as an offhand remark while discussing a bigger picture. I'm sure you'll make it through this.
Complete thread:
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:09
- #thab - Xenos, 2016-02-04, 21:18
- I honestly thought all of those were jokes - ZackDark, 2016-02-04, 21:28
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:36
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- You just need more reasons! - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 21:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:54
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- Apathy Wins! - CyberKN, 2016-02-04, 22:31
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 22:31
- You first. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:33
- no u - CyberKN, 2016-02-04, 22:36
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:10
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:51
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- You first. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:33
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 22:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Yup. They start with false equivalency. - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:27
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 23:22
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Someone ought to be sorry. Paul, perhaps. (rant) - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:41
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
rellekh,
2016-02-04, 23:28
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... - Korny, 2016-02-05, 18:30
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 16:43
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Oh, god. The Pedant in me needs a cigarette. - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:17
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 18:27
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:51
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? - cheapLEY, 2016-02-06, 20:27
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 21:50
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? - Xenos, 2016-02-07, 02:28
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- Bungee does play their dogfood - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:18
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 21:01
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- Kinda like those ASMR movies in the other thread. CREEPY - Pyromancy, 2016-02-06, 22:42
- Sounds like they were taken by her trainer - kidtsunami, 2016-02-10, 17:57
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- As I suspected... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 22:40
- As I suspected... - dogcow, 2016-02-07, 02:10
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:28
- Stop being old. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 03:35
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 05:12
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Man, if I could get away with that... - ProbablyLast, 2016-02-06, 08:16
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 05:12
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 11:44
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- Next find which song makes them not randomly hate you. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:51
- I have one, but it's in German. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:21
- Stop being old. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 03:35
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:51
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- I honestly think you won't notice too much - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:21
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:54
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 19:02
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 17:42
- Fix your internet - Blackt1g3r, 2016-02-05, 17:48
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:06
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - CyberKN, 2016-02-05, 21:39
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 18:50
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:35
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs - Cody Miller, 2016-02-05, 16:28
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:50
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- Getting it BOTH WAYS - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 13:44
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 14:08
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- Space Magic 1.0 - CyberKN, 2016-02-05, 20:28
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- My confession - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 18:53
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- Wireless is just bad -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 19:03
- Wireless is just bad - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 19:20
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm fine topping out at 450Mbps - kidtsunami, 2016-02-08, 12:18
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 19:14
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-05, 19:32
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 18:57
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- +1 - Kermit, 2016-02-08, 14:21
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession - Ragashingo, 2016-02-06, 00:05
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-07, 19:38
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession - Kahzgul, 2016-02-08, 22:13
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:37
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 12:00
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- You are lucky! - Kermit, 2016-02-05, 18:20
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- Metro Detroit: 3mbps ATT @ $30. 10mbps Comcast @ $30 - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 15:30
- I'm lucky - Ragashingo, 2016-02-05, 16:22
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- Alnetworks de Tocqueville -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:30
- Netocracy in America - Funkmon, 2016-02-06, 01:39
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-04, 21:47
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-04, 21:49
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 22:03
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:15
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Ragashingo, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
squidnh3,
2016-02-04, 22:28
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- Agreed. - Ragashingo, 2016-02-04, 22:42
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - dogcow, 2016-02-04, 22:05
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:23
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- Ogres... - Mid7night, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- BOOM! Netcodeshot! - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:16