I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. (Destiny)
Well, the media certainly pretends she is a great one. On the other hand, she trades in for a new boyfriend on an extremely regular basis, sings bad songs about them, and has actually written more than one about how her ideal relationship is an angry one, and that gentlemanly men aren't as desirable.
For example, The Way I Loved You
He respects my space
And never makes me wait
And he calls exactly when he says he will
He's close to my mother
Talks business with my father
He's charming and endearing
And I'm comfortable
But I miss screaming and fighting and kissing in the rain
And it's two a.m. and I'm cursing your name
You're so in love that you act insane
And that's the way I loved you
Breakin' down and coming undone
It's a roller coaster kinda rush
And I never knew I could feel that much
And that's the way I loved you
He can't see the smile I'm faking
And my heart's not breaking
Cause I'm not feeling anything at all
And you were wild and crazy
Just so frustrating intoxicating
Complicated, got away by some mistake and now
I miss screaming and fighting and kissing in the rain (and so on)
Or in one of her biggest songs, Blank Space.
Cherry lips, crystal skies
I could show you incredible things
Stolen kisses, pretty lies
You're the king baby I'm your Queen
Find out what you want
Be that girl for a month
Wait the worst is yet to come, oh no
Screaming, crying, perfect storm
I can make all the tables turn
Rose gardens filled with thorns
Keep you second guessing like
"Oh my God, who is she?"
I get drunk on jealousy
But you'll come back each time you leave
'Cause darling I'm a nightmare dressed like a daydream
So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And you love the game
This isn't the kind of stuff I would necessarily consider for a good role model. Seems like the recipe for awful teenage years. Taylor Swift, while not going around singing explicitly about sexual acts or dressing in a revealing manner, glorifies some stuff I don't think is good role model material. For every nice sentiment she sings about in her songs, like about the troubles of freshman year in Fifteen, I hear some things I find loathsome. For every Stay, Stay, Stay, there's another one being all vindictive about a breakup. In general, she does love songs and breakup songs, so that's all we can really judge her on, and with those, I don't think I can give her an endorsement.
I don't think anything she does is particularly harmful, but I wouldn't give her a pass either.
Complete thread:
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:09
- #thab - Xenos, 2016-02-04, 21:18
- I honestly thought all of those were jokes - ZackDark, 2016-02-04, 21:28
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:36
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- You just need more reasons! - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 21:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:54
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- Apathy Wins! - CyberKN, 2016-02-04, 22:31
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 22:31
- You first. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:33
- no u - CyberKN, 2016-02-04, 22:36
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:10
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:51
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- You first. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:33
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 22:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Yup. They start with false equivalency. - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:27
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 23:22
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Someone ought to be sorry. Paul, perhaps. (rant) - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:41
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
rellekh,
2016-02-04, 23:28
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... - Korny, 2016-02-05, 18:30
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 16:43
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Oh, god. The Pedant in me needs a cigarette. - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:17
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 18:27
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:51
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? - cheapLEY, 2016-02-06, 20:27
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 21:50
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? - Xenos, 2016-02-07, 02:28
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- Bungee does play their dogfood - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:18
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 21:01
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- Kinda like those ASMR movies in the other thread. CREEPY - Pyromancy, 2016-02-06, 22:42
- Sounds like they were taken by her trainer - kidtsunami, 2016-02-10, 17:57
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- As I suspected... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 22:40
- As I suspected... - dogcow, 2016-02-07, 02:10
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:28
- Stop being old. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 03:35
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 05:12
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Man, if I could get away with that... - ProbablyLast, 2016-02-06, 08:16
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 05:12
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 11:44
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- Next find which song makes them not randomly hate you. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:51
- I have one, but it's in German. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:21
- Stop being old. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 03:35
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:51
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- I honestly think you won't notice too much - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:21
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:54
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 19:02
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 17:42
- Fix your internet - Blackt1g3r, 2016-02-05, 17:48
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:06
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - CyberKN, 2016-02-05, 21:39
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 18:50
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:35
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs - Cody Miller, 2016-02-05, 16:28
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:50
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- Getting it BOTH WAYS - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 13:44
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 14:08
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- Space Magic 1.0 - CyberKN, 2016-02-05, 20:28
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- My confession - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 18:53
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- Wireless is just bad -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 19:03
- Wireless is just bad - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 19:20
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm fine topping out at 450Mbps - kidtsunami, 2016-02-08, 12:18
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 19:14
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-05, 19:32
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 18:57
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- +1 - Kermit, 2016-02-08, 14:21
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession - Ragashingo, 2016-02-06, 00:05
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-07, 19:38
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession - Kahzgul, 2016-02-08, 22:13
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:37
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 12:00
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- You are lucky! - Kermit, 2016-02-05, 18:20
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- Metro Detroit: 3mbps ATT @ $30. 10mbps Comcast @ $30 - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 15:30
- I'm lucky - Ragashingo, 2016-02-05, 16:22
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- Alnetworks de Tocqueville -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:30
- Netocracy in America - Funkmon, 2016-02-06, 01:39
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-04, 21:47
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-04, 21:49
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 22:03
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:15
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Ragashingo, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
squidnh3,
2016-02-04, 22:28
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- Agreed. - Ragashingo, 2016-02-04, 22:42
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - dogcow, 2016-02-04, 22:05
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:23
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- Ogres... - Mid7night, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- BOOM! Netcodeshot! - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:16