I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. (Destiny)
Well, she's 26. But still. She was savvy in that she became famous through country music, which discourages that sexual stuff. The women are beautiful but cover up, and they don't do the Madonna crap. In fact, one of my favourite singers, Cassadee Pope, covers up her arms for promotional materials because they're full of tattoos, acceptable in pop/punk whence she came, but not acceptable in country music. So, once already famous, Swift sold out and started doing electronic pop junk. Her image as a country artist carried through and she can continue to act like a normal person.
Taylor's switch into the pop world is a lot more impressive than it seems on the surface. Not many music acts can pull off a switch like that. Because of her start in country music, she comes off as genuine in terms of her musical abilities (she plays her own instruments & writes her own songs). But in the buildup to her switch into pop music, she and her label were very smart in how they cultivated her fan base. All her marketing and social media was about making personal connections with her fans. By the time her 1989 album came out, it could have been a collection of old-time banjo mountain music and her fans would've loved it, because they are invested in her as much as her music. In a way, she's kind of future-proofed her career. She can bounce to whatever genre she wants (or whatever genre is selling well) and as long as the tunes are catchy, and she retains her connection with her fan base, they'll eat it up. And since she began by establishing herself as a country singer/songwriter, she can always come back with stuff like this and her fans accept it:
Side note, I think Mylie Cyrus is heading along a similar path, although I suspect her "antics" over the past few years have more to do with wrestling personal demons, rather than Taylor Swift's more calculated path. But as someone who established herself doing stuff like this...
...I think we'll see her come through the garbage-pop phase intact.
I think pop princesses like Katy Perry (who I think is a fantastic singer) are going to have a much harder time continuing on in the music industry if/when people tire of her bubblegum music. She's marketed her looks and party dresses as such a huge part of "who she is" that I think people will have a tougher time accepting anything different from her.
Wow, who knew female pop singers were such a hot topic for me ;p I just really find this stuff fascinating.
However, if we're talking about female singers, there are some more consistent ones who are also famous despite no sex stuff, like Hayley Williams if you like rock music, or a lot of pop country singers. Swift may be the best of a bad bunch. What about Adele? I don't know what kind of junk she sings about, but she seems like a nice girl.
I don't know Hayley Williams... I'll have to check out her music. And good point about Adele. I'm not really familiar with her music either, but I've seen a few interviews and she comes across as unusually genuine, which is great to see.
Complete thread:
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:09
- #thab - Xenos, 2016-02-04, 21:18
- I honestly thought all of those were jokes - ZackDark, 2016-02-04, 21:28
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:36
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- You just need more reasons! - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 21:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 21:54
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- Apathy Wins! - CyberKN, 2016-02-04, 22:31
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 22:31
- You first. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:33
- no u - CyberKN, 2016-02-04, 22:36
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:10
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:51
- I think many of us are guilty of this from time to time -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:27
- You first. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:33
- Turns out, I don't care enough to talk about this. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 22:24
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:20
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-04, 21:59
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 22:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Yup. They start with false equivalency. - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:27
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 23:22
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Someone ought to be sorry. Paul, perhaps. (rant) - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 07:41
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 23:32
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
rellekh,
2016-02-04, 23:28
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... - Korny, 2016-02-05, 18:30
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:34
- No need, there was clearly no malice or condescension... -
Korny,
2016-02-05, 12:05
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 16:43
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Oh, god. The Pedant in me needs a cigarette. - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:17
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 18:27
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:51
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? - cheapLEY, 2016-02-06, 20:27
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 21:50
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? - Xenos, 2016-02-07, 02:28
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-07, 01:24
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-07, 01:09
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 20:16
- In which direction? -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-06, 05:57
- In which direction? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 01:36
- In which direction? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:06
- Bungee does play their dogfood - Vortech, 2016-02-05, 20:18
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 21:01
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- Kinda like those ASMR movies in the other thread. CREEPY - Pyromancy, 2016-02-06, 22:42
- Sounds like they were taken by her trainer - kidtsunami, 2016-02-10, 17:57
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 22:25
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 22:21
- As I suspected... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 22:40
- As I suspected... - dogcow, 2016-02-07, 02:10
- I don't feel creepy AT ALL. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:40
- Yep, wrong -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 02:52
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:28
- Stop being old. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 03:35
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 05:12
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Man, if I could get away with that... - ProbablyLast, 2016-02-06, 08:16
- Just get the right shelving unit and you'll be fine. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 05:14
- Next you'll tell me I can't drink at work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 05:12
- Aren't you supposed to be doing your job? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 03:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 11:44
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:39
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 19:50
- I'm not sure about Taylor Swift as a role model. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-06, 17:06
- Next find which song makes them not randomly hate you. -
Vortech,
2016-02-06, 21:51
- I have one, but it's in German. - Funkmon, 2016-02-07, 04:21
- Stop being old. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-06, 03:35
- Yep, wrong -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-06, 00:50
- Yep, wrong -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-06, 00:14
- Yep, wrong -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-05, 23:08
- My favourite Quik Trip is 2 hours outside of Kansas City -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:51
- Yep, wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 17:51
- Can someone on Twitter or sth ask Cozmo if this was a joke? -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:49
- It came out wrong. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:55
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 00:12
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:26
- I honestly think you won't notice too much - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:21
- This is how all of these convos go. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 23:06
- Sorry if this comes out wrong -
Up North 65,
2016-02-04, 23:00
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:54
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 19:02
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 17:42
- Fix your internet - Blackt1g3r, 2016-02-05, 17:48
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:06
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - CyberKN, 2016-02-05, 21:39
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:24
- Check your bandwidth math again...... -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Check your bandwidth math again...... - dogcow, 2016-02-05, 18:50
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:43
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Shit? -
dogcow,
2016-02-05, 02:26
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:35
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs - Cody Miller, 2016-02-05, 16:28
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:41
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 07:50
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- Getting it BOTH WAYS - narcogen, 2016-02-05, 13:44
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 14:08
- Can't have it both ways unfortunately. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 09:22
- I honestly considered Destiny the most middle-ground of MMs -
ZackDark,
2016-02-05, 01:08
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- Space Magic 1.0 - CyberKN, 2016-02-05, 20:28
- I can explain. -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:23
- My confession - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 18:53
- Sounds like you need a networking expert. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:43
- Wireless is just bad -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 19:03
- Wireless is just bad - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 19:20
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm fine topping out at 450Mbps - kidtsunami, 2016-02-08, 12:18
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-05, 19:14
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-05, 19:32
- You're not accounting for wifi interference. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 19:26
- My confession -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-05, 18:19
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 18:57
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- +1 - Kermit, 2016-02-08, 14:21
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-06, 12:13
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-06, 08:20
- My confession -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-06, 03:22
- My confession -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 23:36
- My confession -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 19:43
- My confession - Ragashingo, 2016-02-06, 00:05
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-07, 19:38
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession - Kahzgul, 2016-02-08, 22:13
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:56
- My confession -
Kahzgul,
2016-02-08, 14:08
- My confession -
dogcow,
2016-02-08, 14:04
- My confession -
Funkmon,
2016-02-05, 18:11
- Bingle now wants me to fix my Stuff? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:45
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 00:37
- And that's the last time Funkmon plays Iron Banner. - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 12:00
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- You are lucky! - Kermit, 2016-02-05, 18:20
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 17:34
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:41
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 16:39
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 16:25
- Metro Detroit: 3mbps ATT @ $30. 10mbps Comcast @ $30 - Funkmon, 2016-02-05, 15:30
- I'm lucky - Ragashingo, 2016-02-05, 16:22
- I'm lucky -
Kermit,
2016-02-05, 15:23
- I'm lucky -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-02-05, 15:12
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 15:00
- I had no idea. TIL. -
bluerunner,
2016-02-05, 14:51
- I had no idea. TIL. -
Xenos,
2016-02-05, 14:30
- I had no idea. TIL. -
someotherguy,
2016-02-05, 14:29
- Alnetworks de Tocqueville -
Vortech,
2016-02-05, 20:30
- Netocracy in America - Funkmon, 2016-02-06, 01:39
- Maybe I don't know enough about American Internet -
narcogen,
2016-02-05, 13:37
- Exactly my thought. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-02-04, 21:41
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-04, 21:47
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-04, 21:49
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Funkmon, 2016-02-04, 22:03
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:15
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - Ragashingo, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
squidnh3,
2016-02-04, 22:28
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- Agreed. - Ragashingo, 2016-02-04, 22:42
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-04, 22:40
- This Heek at the Destiny Weekly Upgrade: Ice Breaker Edition - dogcow, 2016-02-04, 22:05
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
CyberKN,
2016-02-04, 22:23
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. - Xenos, 2016-02-05, 00:41
- In my defense, I was in a meeting for the last 1.5 hours. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-04, 22:34
- Ogres... - Mid7night, 2016-02-04, 22:32
- BOOM! Netcodeshot! - Kahzgul, 2016-02-06, 20:16