Client-Server != DRM

by kapowaz, Friday, March 22, 2013, 01:59 (4053 days ago) @ narcogen

...I'm tired of hearing that a game requiring you be online means it has DRM. No; it's a technical design decision. If you want to call client-server technology DRM then the following all also have DRM:

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You can't use them if you're offline – some or all features are unavailable in that case. Please, can we just focus on calling a spade a spade? Always online in Destiny is a technical decision made to support design goals Bungie has set out. Berate it for being inconvenient and potentially sub-optimal in the long run (whenever Destiny's servers come down), but don't conflate that with the very much different issue of DRM.

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Always online does not equal DRM - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:33
- Always online does not equal DRM - katancik, 2013-03-20, 20:40
  - This - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:43
    - This - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-03-20, 21:25
      - Marked. - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 21:26
      - This - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 22:33
        
        What about roads? - Ragashingo, 2013-03-20, 22:45
        
        What about roads? - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 23:45
        
        Roads? Where we're going, we won't need roads... - thebruce, 2013-03-21, 06:35
- I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:17
  - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:26
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:46
      - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:47
      - I believe it does - MrPadraig08, 2013-03-21, 07:41
  - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 01:35
    - Good points - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 01:37
      - Good points - Malagate, 2013-03-21, 05:08
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 07:06
        
        Good points - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 11:44
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 14:25
    - I believe it doesn't - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 12:30
      - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 15:41
    - I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:48
      - I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 23:54
        
        I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:04
        
        I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-23, 13:31
      - I believe it doesn't - thebruce, 2013-03-22, 06:36
  - Exhibit A: Banned Consoles - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:40
  - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:56
    - Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 08:58
      - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 09:12
        
        Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 09:26
  - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:35
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:20
      - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:37
- Except that it does. - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:42
  - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 01:59
    - Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 09:51
      - Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 09:59
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - uberfoop, 2013-03-22, 10:11
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Schooly D, 2013-03-22, 11:00
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 11:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 11:32
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:11
      - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 10:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 12:12
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 14:36
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 16:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 16:50
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 17:45
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Hoovaloov, 2013-03-23, 05:04
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Leisandir, 2013-03-23, 06:23
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-23, 10:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 19:47
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Xenos, 2013-03-24, 19:54
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-24, 20:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 21:46
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 16:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:49
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-24, 17:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:19
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:06
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-22, 15:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:44
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 17:07
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 22:17
  - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:05
    - Always online does not equal DRM - thebruce, 2013-03-25, 07:33
    - Always online does not equal DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-25, 08:11
      - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:12
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 10:06
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 10:29
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 14:12
        
        Oh, my - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 19:40
        
        Excellent question! - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 20:45
        
        Thank you - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 21:01
        
        Agreed - Xenos, 2013-03-25, 21:14
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 07:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-26, 08:08
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 08:28
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-26, 09:22
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 10:19
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:34
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 11:35
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Ragashingo, 2013-03-26, 14:15
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-27, 10:10
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Claude Errera, 2013-03-27, 17:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:46
        
        Winner! - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-28, 08:04
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - General Vagueness, 2013-03-28, 17:46
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 18:11
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 09:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:56
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Xenos, 2013-03-26, 13:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 13:28
        
        Incentive - RC, 2013-03-27, 13:05
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-25, 16:04
- EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 01:48
  - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 01:50
    - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:43
      - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 02:50
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 03:46
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 04:17

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