Client-Server != DRM

by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:42 (4274 days ago) @ kapowaz

I agree with this. But I completely refute the suggestion that the design decision to go for a client-server architecture with Destiny was one led by the desire to implement any kind of DRM controls.

Here is where the confusion lies. I AM NOT SAYING THEY DID THIS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO ADOPT DRM. I'm sure they did it because they want the game to play a certain way, but that doesn't change the fact that IT IS DRM.

When they sat down to decide what kind of game they wanted to make, ideas like making it use a persistent world, with seamless drift-in-drift-out cooperative multiplayer would have been on the whiteboard way before anything along the lines of ‘prevent people from playing the game for some reason’.

I AGREE.

What reasons are you even envisaging that they'd have for preventing people from playing? It seems like a recurrent theme with you and DRM that it's about piracy, but I really don't think they think that's as big a deal as you think they do.

Please read more carefully, I have said no such thing. DRM is about control, not necessarily piracy as I have said many times before.

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Always online does not equal DRM - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:33
- Always online does not equal DRM - katancik, 2013-03-20, 20:40
  - This - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:43
    - This - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-03-20, 21:25
      - Marked. - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 21:26
      - This - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 22:33
        
        What about roads? - Ragashingo, 2013-03-20, 22:45
        
        What about roads? - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 23:45
        
        Roads? Where we're going, we won't need roads... - thebruce, 2013-03-21, 06:35
- I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:17
  - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:26
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:46
      - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:47
      - I believe it does - MrPadraig08, 2013-03-21, 07:41
  - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 01:35
    - Good points - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 01:37
      - Good points - Malagate, 2013-03-21, 05:08
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 07:06
        
        Good points - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 11:44
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 14:25
    - I believe it doesn't - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 12:30
      - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 15:41
    - I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:48
      - I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 23:54
        
        I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:04
        
        I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-23, 13:31
      - I believe it doesn't - thebruce, 2013-03-22, 06:36
  - Exhibit A: Banned Consoles - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:40
  - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:56
    - Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 08:58
      - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 09:12
        
        Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 09:26
  - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:35
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:20
      - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:37
- Except that it does. - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:42
  - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 01:59
    - Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 09:51
      - Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 09:59
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - uberfoop, 2013-03-22, 10:11
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Schooly D, 2013-03-22, 11:00
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 11:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 11:32
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:11
      - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 10:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 12:12
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 14:36
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 16:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 16:50
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 17:45
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Hoovaloov, 2013-03-23, 05:04
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Leisandir, 2013-03-23, 06:23
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-23, 10:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 19:47
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Xenos, 2013-03-24, 19:54
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-24, 20:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 21:46
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 16:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:49
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-24, 17:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:19
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:06
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-22, 15:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:44
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 17:07
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 22:17
  - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:05
    - Always online does not equal DRM - thebruce, 2013-03-25, 07:33
    - Always online does not equal DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-25, 08:11
      - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:12
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 10:06
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 10:29
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 14:12
        
        Oh, my - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 19:40
        
        Excellent question! - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 20:45
        
        Thank you - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 21:01
        
        Agreed - Xenos, 2013-03-25, 21:14
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 07:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-26, 08:08
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 08:28
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-26, 09:22
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 10:19
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:34
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 11:35
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Ragashingo, 2013-03-26, 14:15
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-27, 10:10
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Claude Errera, 2013-03-27, 17:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:46
        
        Winner! - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-28, 08:04
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - General Vagueness, 2013-03-28, 17:46
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 18:11
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 09:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:56
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Xenos, 2013-03-26, 13:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 13:28
        
        Incentive - RC, 2013-03-27, 13:05
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-25, 16:04
- EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 01:48
  - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 01:50
    - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:43
      - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 02:50
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 03:46
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 04:17

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