Client-Server != DRM

by Claude Errera , Friday, March 22, 2013, 11:07 (4273 days ago) @ Schooly D

Wow, you really know a lot about how Destiny works! I wish I had your in with the developer; I certainly don't have anywhere this level of certainty about how Destiny's gonna be when it comes out!

I'm curious as to why Cody's assumption of Destiny's mechanics received this response, but kapowaz's assumption of Bungie's intentions did not:

Always online in Destiny is a technical decision made to support design goals Bungie has set out.

Because Cody's description of how things would work was pretty damned specific, while kapowaz assumed nothing more than 'always-online' (which has been stated, though not with any specifics).

Cody STARTED with a relatively abstract argument, but has gotten more and more specific as people have argued with him, and my eyes started rolling when I read this sentence:

But Destiny not only requires you to be online, but it requires you to be connected to a particular server run by the people developing / publishing the game.

That sentence requires just a little more assumption than I'm willing to concede at this stage. :)

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Always online does not equal DRM - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:33
- Always online does not equal DRM - katancik, 2013-03-20, 20:40
  - This - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 20:43
    - This - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-03-20, 21:25
      - Marked. - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 21:26
      - This - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 22:33
        
        What about roads? - Ragashingo, 2013-03-20, 22:45
        
        What about roads? - Dagoonite, 2013-03-20, 23:45
        
        Roads? Where we're going, we won't need roads... - thebruce, 2013-03-21, 06:35
- I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:17
  - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:26
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-20, 23:46
      - I believe it does - Xenos, 2013-03-20, 23:47
      - I believe it does - MrPadraig08, 2013-03-21, 07:41
  - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 01:35
    - Good points - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 01:37
      - Good points - Malagate, 2013-03-21, 05:08
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 07:06
        
        Good points - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 11:44
        
        Good points - Kermit, 2013-03-21, 14:25
    - I believe it doesn't - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 12:30
      - I believe it doesn't - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-21, 15:41
    - I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:48
      - I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-21, 23:54
        
        I believe it doesn't - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:04
        
        I believe it doesn't - Xenos, 2013-03-23, 13:31
      - I believe it doesn't - thebruce, 2013-03-22, 06:36
  - Exhibit A: Banned Consoles - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:40
  - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 01:56
    - Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 08:58
      - Exhibit B: Emulators - kapowaz, 2013-03-21, 09:12
        
        Exhibit B: Emulators - Cody Miller, 2013-03-21, 09:26
  - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:35
    - I believe it does - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:20
      - I believe it does - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:37
- Except that it does. - narcogen, 2013-03-21, 23:42
  - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 01:59
    - Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 09:51
      - Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 09:59
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - uberfoop, 2013-03-22, 10:11
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Schooly D, 2013-03-22, 11:00
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 11:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 11:32
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:11
      - Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 10:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 10:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 12:12
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 12:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-22, 14:36
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:38
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 16:09
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 16:50
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-22, 17:45
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Hoovaloov, 2013-03-23, 05:04
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Leisandir, 2013-03-23, 06:23
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-23, 10:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 19:47
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Xenos, 2013-03-24, 19:54
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - Avateur, 2013-03-24, 20:48
        
        My Only Concern With Destiny - RC, 2013-03-24, 21:46
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-22, 16:27
        
        Client-Server != DRM - narcogen, 2013-03-23, 04:49
        
        Client-Server != DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-24, 17:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:07
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 01:19
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:06
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Dean Hofmeyer (unhh), 2013-03-25, 12:42
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-22, 15:30
        
        Client-Server != DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-22, 15:44
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 17:07
- Always online does not equal DRM - General Vagueness, 2013-03-22, 22:17
  - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-24, 22:05
    - Always online does not equal DRM - thebruce, 2013-03-25, 07:33
    - Always online does not equal DRM - Claude Errera, 2013-03-25, 08:11
      - Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 09:12
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 10:06
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 10:29
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - Mercury, 2013-03-25, 14:12
        
        Oh, my - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 19:40
        
        Excellent question! - Cody Miller, 2013-03-25, 20:45
        
        Thank you - ZackDark, 2013-03-25, 21:01
        
        Agreed - Xenos, 2013-03-25, 21:14
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 07:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-26, 08:08
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 08:28
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-26, 09:22
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mercury, 2013-03-26, 10:19
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:34
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 11:35
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Ragashingo, 2013-03-26, 14:15
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Cody Miller, 2013-03-27, 10:10
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Claude Errera, 2013-03-27, 17:58
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:46
        
        Winner! - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-28, 08:04
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - General Vagueness, 2013-03-28, 17:46
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 18:11
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 09:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Mr Daax, 2013-03-26, 11:56
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - Xenos, 2013-03-26, 13:07
        
        Motivations behind region restrictions in games - kapowaz, 2013-03-26, 13:28
        
        Incentive - RC, 2013-03-27, 13:05
        
        Always online does not equal DRM - kapowaz, 2013-03-25, 16:04
- EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 01:48
  - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 01:50
    - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 02:43
      - EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 02:50
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - kapowaz, 2013-03-28, 03:46
        
        EA: "DRM is a failed dead-end strategy" - Xenos, 2013-03-28, 04:17

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