Natural progression (Destiny)
by Cody Miller 
, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Saturday, September 02, 2017, 09:04 (2437 days ago) @ RaichuKFM
The point being, you can dislike it but it isn't correct to equivocate it, but also you're right in that slogging through most of the game for great bits at the end isn't ridiculous; though Xenos can of couree personally think it odd I guess.
But it's exactly equivalent. The 'what' doesn't matter. You could be doing an epic quest spanning an entire game. But the moment you are asked to repeat that as part of investment based progression, it becomes the same thing. Strike playlists and the loot cave are different in degree, but not different in principle.
Understanding this is the key to understanding the poison of investment systems.
Complete thread:
- THAB 08/31/17 -
CyberKN,
2017-08-31, 17:20
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- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:36
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:47
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:48
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - ZackDark, 2017-08-31, 17:50
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:56
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 17:58
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:01
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 18:02
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:03
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 18:09
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:03
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 18:02
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:01
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 17:58
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:48
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 18:09
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 18:10
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:12
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - Ragashingo, 2017-08-31, 18:21
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
narcogen,
2017-08-31, 18:30
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:33
- No light levels -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:02
- No light levels -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:09
- Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand - narcogen, 2017-09-04, 19:24
- No light levels -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:09
- No light levels -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:02
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
cheapLEY,
2017-08-31, 18:50
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 02:51
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:33
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 18:37
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 18:47
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:24
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 19:56
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Mr Daax,
2017-09-01, 09:48
- Rock on!
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DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 10:02
- Rock on! - Mr Daax, 2017-09-01, 12:07
- Also willing -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-01, 10:35
- Also willing -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Also willing - Mr Daax, 2017-09-01, 12:10
- Also willing - RaichuKFM, 2017-09-01, 12:34
- Also willing -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Rock on!
- I would love to try it blind - FaerieFire, 2017-09-02, 06:43
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:24
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 18:47
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - cheapLEY, 2017-08-31, 18:48
- No, not really. - narcogen, 2017-08-31, 18:27
- Not worse, just different. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 18:33
- Not worse, just different. -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:07
- Not worse, just different. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 19:38
- Not worse, just different. - stabbim, 2017-08-31, 23:06
- Natural progression -
Beorn,
2017-09-01, 07:45
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 07:58
- Natural progression -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:03
- Natural progression - Xenos, 2017-09-01, 09:47
- Natural progression -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 11:14
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 11:23
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 11:59
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:28
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:48
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:52
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:58
- LOL -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:02
- LOL -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:04
- Yar! Acursed we be! -
INSANEdrive,
2017-09-01, 14:42
- Yar! Acursed we be!
- LOL -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:04
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 14:44
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:57
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 17:19
- Natural progression -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-01, 18:10
- Natural progression - Xenos, 2017-09-02, 07:19
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 09:04
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 09:29
- Natural progression - Cody Miller, 2017-09-02, 10:19
- Natural progression -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-02, 13:12
- MTG tangent -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 13:54
- MTG tangent - RaichuKFM, 2017-09-02, 15:38
- Sliver dekcs ftw - ZackDark, 2017-09-02, 20:23
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 15:01
- Natural progression - RaichuKFM, 2017-09-02, 16:56
- MTG tangent -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 13:54
- Natural progression - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 03:21
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 09:29
- Dust jacket - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 03:12
- Natural progression -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-01, 18:10
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 17:19
- Patrols - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 03:11
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:57
- LOL -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:02
- Ridiculous -
narcogen,
2017-09-01, 19:56
- Ridiculous -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 09:00
- Investment -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:09
- Investment -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:12
- Irrelevant - narcogen, 2017-09-04, 19:29
- Investment -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:12
- Investment -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:09
- Ridiculous -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 09:00
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:58
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:52
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:48
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:28
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 11:59
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 11:23
- Natural progression -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:03
- Natural progression - Cody Miller, 2017-09-01, 08:59
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 07:58
- Not worse, just different. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 19:38
- Not worse, just different. -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:07
- It appears to roll the MINIMUM level on drop... -
kidtsunami,
2017-08-31, 22:25
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 07:20
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - ZackDark, 2017-09-01, 07:46
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 08:38
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:01
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - DiscipleN2k, 2017-09-01, 09:15
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:17
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:31
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - dogcow, 2017-09-01, 09:37
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:31
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - Xenos, 2017-09-01, 11:57
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:01
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - Cody Miller, 2017-09-01, 08:56
- Yeah. But I'm not surprised. - ProbablyLast, 2017-09-01, 09:05
- Have we considered... -
ManKitten,
2017-09-01, 09:14
- Have we considered... - stabbim, 2017-09-01, 09:29
- Not a problem -
electricpirate,
2017-09-01, 09:20
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:26
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 10:01
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters - dogcow, 2017-09-01, 10:24
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 10:01
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:26
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
Schedonnardus,
2017-09-01, 12:52
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
bluerunner,
2017-09-01, 13:18
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:00
- Wait what? - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 02:48
- YES! THIS! I'm very sad about the timeline. -
slycrel,
2017-09-01, 22:39
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:00
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
bluerunner,
2017-09-01, 13:18
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:47
- THAB 08/31/17 - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 17:50
- THAB 08/31/17 -
squidnh3,
2017-08-31, 18:09
- THAB 08/31/17 -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 18:43
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 05:41
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Schedonnardus,
2017-09-01, 08:42
- FPS players? -
ZackDark,
2017-09-01, 09:29
- FPS players?
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Schedonnardus,
2017-09-01, 08:42
- THAB 08/31/17 - dogcow, 2017-09-01, 07:29
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 05:41
- THAB 08/31/17 -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 18:43
- THAB 08/31/17 - Snarky Summary -
Kahzgul,
2017-09-02, 20:59
- -7 Not snarky enough -
Xenos,
2017-09-03, 07:14
- -7 Not snarky enough - Kahzgul, 2017-09-03, 17:58
- -7 Not snarky enough
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:36