No light levels (Destiny)
Meh. Obsessing over advancing your light like that seems unfun. Don’t do unfun things and take comfort that the remaining things are a little be better than they were in Destiny 1. :)
Too bad you kind of have to to be raid ready in a week so you don't get spoiled.
Solution to that is raids come out later, not allowing progression to max light to take place within a week. Sheesh.Or, you know, don't read spoilers.
No. The solution is no light levels in the game at all.
That's EXACTLY what I described in a different post:
https://destiny.bungie.org/forum/index.php?mode=entry&id=136897
That is so ridiculously reductive it could apply to ANY game with almost any progression system whatsoever OTHER than one that uses a linear progression with no repetition, no randomization.
In other words, Halo-style progression. You can imagine every player doing the Halo single-player campaign as entering the game with a level 1 and earning 1 level at the completion of each level, ending the game with a level equal to the number of levels played.
The reasons why this is not the case are obvious-- no progression, no long-term engagement outside of competitive multiplayer. Bungie knew how to make that game. If they wanted to do that, they would.
Long term engagement with finite content means repetition. Repetition with finite content and progression means introducing a random element so that progression is not keyed lockstep to content completion. (Progression here can me not just light level, but the continued accumulation of sets of armor and weapons that permit for varying gameplay styles).
I don't think Bungie's raid launch date is chosen with regard to light levels. Therefore, removing light levels would allow more players to enter the raid even sooner, and make spoilers proliferate. No mater how low the bar is to get into the raid, there are always going to be some players who can't put in that number of hours in a single week. I think the 1 week term is catering to squeaky wheel streamers who will cry content drought if they don't have new things.
If it's not that then I don't know what. I certainly hope Bungie thinks they're launching a game with more than a week's worth of first-run content in it.
Complete thread:
- THAB 08/31/17 -
CyberKN,
2017-08-31, 17:20
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:36
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:47
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:48
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - ZackDark, 2017-08-31, 17:50
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:56
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 17:58
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:01
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 18:02
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:03
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 18:09
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:03
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 18:02
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:01
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
petetheduck,
2017-08-31, 17:58
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:48
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 18:09
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 18:10
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:12
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - Ragashingo, 2017-08-31, 18:21
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
narcogen,
2017-08-31, 18:30
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:33
- No light levels -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:02
- No light levels -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:09
- Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand - narcogen, 2017-09-04, 19:24
- No light levels -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:09
- No light levels -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:02
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
cheapLEY,
2017-08-31, 18:50
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 02:51
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 18:33
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 18:37
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 18:47
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:24
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 19:56
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Mr Daax,
2017-09-01, 09:48
- Rock on! -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 10:02
- Rock on! - Mr Daax, 2017-09-01, 12:07
- Also willing -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-01, 10:35
- Also willing -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Also willing - Mr Daax, 2017-09-01, 12:10
- Also willing - RaichuKFM, 2017-09-01, 12:34
- Also willing -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Rock on! -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 10:02
- I would love to try it blind - FaerieFire, 2017-09-02, 06:43
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:24
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 18:47
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? - cheapLEY, 2017-08-31, 18:48
- No, not really. - narcogen, 2017-08-31, 18:27
- Not worse, just different. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 18:33
- Not worse, just different. -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:07
- Not worse, just different. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 19:38
- Not worse, just different. - stabbim, 2017-08-31, 23:06
- Natural progression -
Beorn,
2017-09-01, 07:45
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 07:58
- Natural progression -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:03
- Natural progression - Xenos, 2017-09-01, 09:47
- Natural progression -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 11:14
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 11:23
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 11:59
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:28
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:48
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:52
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:58
- LOL -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:02
- LOL -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:04
- Yar! Acursed we be! - INSANEdrive, 2017-09-01, 14:42
- LOL -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:04
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 14:44
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:57
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 17:19
- Natural progression -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-01, 18:10
- Natural progression - Xenos, 2017-09-02, 07:19
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 09:04
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 09:29
- Natural progression - Cody Miller, 2017-09-02, 10:19
- Natural progression -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-02, 13:12
- MTG tangent -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 13:54
- MTG tangent - RaichuKFM, 2017-09-02, 15:38
- Sliver dekcs ftw - ZackDark, 2017-09-02, 20:23
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 15:01
- Natural progression - RaichuKFM, 2017-09-02, 16:56
- MTG tangent -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 13:54
- Natural progression - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 03:21
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-02, 09:29
- Dust jacket - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 03:12
- Natural progression -
RaichuKFM,
2017-09-01, 18:10
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 17:19
- Patrols - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 03:11
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 14:57
- LOL -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:02
- Ridiculous -
narcogen,
2017-09-01, 19:56
- Ridiculous -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 09:00
- Investment -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:09
- Investment -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:12
- Irrelevant - narcogen, 2017-09-04, 19:29
- Investment -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-03, 06:12
- Investment -
narcogen,
2017-09-03, 03:09
- Ridiculous -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 09:00
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:58
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:52
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 13:48
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 13:28
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 12:00
- Natural progression -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 11:59
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 11:23
- Natural progression -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:03
- Natural progression - Cody Miller, 2017-09-01, 08:59
- Natural progression -
Xenos,
2017-09-01, 07:58
- Not worse, just different. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 19:38
- Not worse, just different. -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 19:07
- It appears to roll the MINIMUM level on drop... - kidtsunami, 2017-08-31, 22:25
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 07:20
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - ZackDark, 2017-09-01, 07:46
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 08:38
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:01
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - DiscipleN2k, 2017-09-01, 09:15
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:17
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:31
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - dogcow, 2017-09-01, 09:37
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 09:31
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - Xenos, 2017-09-01, 11:57
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:01
- Think... er... I mean, Decrypt Different™ ;) - Cody Miller, 2017-09-01, 08:56
- Yeah. But I'm not surprised. - ProbablyLast, 2017-09-01, 09:05
- Have we considered... -
ManKitten,
2017-09-01, 09:14
- Have we considered... - stabbim, 2017-09-01, 09:29
- Not a problem -
electricpirate,
2017-09-01, 09:20
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:26
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 10:01
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters - dogcow, 2017-09-01, 10:24
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-09-01, 10:01
- Not a problem - bonus for alternate characters -
dogcow,
2017-09-01, 09:26
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
Schedonnardus,
2017-09-01, 12:52
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
bluerunner,
2017-09-01, 13:18
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:00
- Wait what? - narcogen, 2017-09-03, 02:48
- YES! THIS! I'm very sad about the timeline. - slycrel, 2017-09-01, 22:39
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
cheapLEY,
2017-09-01, 14:00
- this discourages engram hoarding prior to new expansions -
bluerunner,
2017-09-01, 13:18
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:47
- THAB 08/31/17 - petetheduck, 2017-08-31, 17:50
- THAB 08/31/17 -
squidnh3,
2017-08-31, 18:09
- THAB 08/31/17 -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 18:43
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 05:41
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Schedonnardus,
2017-09-01, 08:42
- FPS players? - ZackDark, 2017-09-01, 09:29
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Schedonnardus,
2017-09-01, 08:42
- THAB 08/31/17 - dogcow, 2017-09-01, 07:29
- THAB 08/31/17 -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-01, 05:41
- THAB 08/31/17 -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 18:43
- THAB 08/31/17 - Snarky Summary -
Kahzgul,
2017-09-02, 20:59
- -7 Not snarky enough -
Xenos,
2017-09-03, 07:14
- -7 Not snarky enough - Kahzgul, 2017-09-03, 17:58
- -7 Not snarky enough -
Xenos,
2017-09-03, 07:14
- So, they actually made the engram situation worse? -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-08-31, 17:36