It's worth clarifying (Destiny)

by MacAddictXIV , Seattle WA, Thursday, June 13, 2019, 08:50 (2009 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

[*] Saying Destiny is an MMO is a matter of identity in Bungie's eyes. They recognize that Destiny has had an identity crisis and they have been trying to please many different crowds of people. By saying it is an MMO, they are fully committed to making the game for hardcore fans instead of casual players. They are no longer concerned with pleasing the casual masses.

That's a bummer. "You have to do both".
One of Destiny's biggest issues has always been the falling-behind-if-you-don't-play-religiously problem. Sounds like they're embracing it as a means of encouraging people to play Destiny every day, as opposed to making it the type of game where you check in every once in a while and throw some money at if you like what you see.

This is a bummer, but this comment really sounds like the emotional response from someone who listened to what Luke and Mark said not a summary of what they said. I reserve judgement about this and am going to wait to see what this really means.

"By saying it is an MMO, they are fully committed to making the game for hardcore fans instead of casual players. They are no longer concerned with pleasing the casual masses."

^ This is a very misleading summary of that portion of the discussion. They weren't addressing "casual" players of the sort that the people around here might understand as casual. Mark said something along the lines of "will Joe Wallmart be able to get into the game" as an example of the sorts of discussions they were having pre D2 launch, and how at this point they've just decided not to worry about "Joe Wallmart" because this game really isn't for those kinds of players.

They weren't talking about gearing the game towards the super hardcore streamer crowd at the expense of other people who are already playing, just at a more relaxed pace. They were talking about the decision to stop worrying about the kind of gamer who just wants their 6-8 hour campaign and isn't interested in any of the other mechanics or systems that a game like Destiny is built around.

Gotcha, see that is why I reserved my judgment. That summary was very much influenced by an outside source instead of actually summarizing the actual content. This makes more sense and I'm fine by that. Every game isn't for everyone. And if developers cater to everyone, then no one is satisfied.