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This is what the film TELLS you it is about, but it is in no way about this on a textual level. It says one thing and does another.
But when I watched Civil War for the first time it was with everything that had happened with Cap and Tony starting with Avengers. Their conflict began on the hellicarrier right before Hulk went nuts.
Rogers: "I know guys with none of that worth ten of you. I've seen the footage. The only thing you really fight for is yourself. You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you!"
Stark: "I think I'd just cut the wire."
Rogers: "Always a way out. You know, you may not be a threat, but you'd better stop pretending to be a hero."
Tony: "A hero? Like you? You're a lab experiment, Rogers. Everything special about you came out of a bottle."
An argument which, not incidentally, Cap won in Endgame.
So when I watch Civil War I'm seeing their previous choices playing out. How do you think it's just being told to you?
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2019-12-18, 07:52
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2019-12-18, 10:52
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2019-12-18, 13:10
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2019-12-20, 13:23
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2019-12-20, 13:39
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2019-12-20, 15:10
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2019-12-20, 13:23
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2019-12-22, 16:30
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2019-12-19, 23:26
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2019-12-19, 23:13
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2019-12-19, 15:06
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2019-12-19, 15:35
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2019-12-19, 15:37
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2019-12-19, 15:42
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2019-12-19, 15:37
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2019-12-20, 16:36
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2019-12-20, 16:07
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2019-12-20, 15:31
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2019-12-20, 07:58
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2019-12-19, 19:38
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2019-12-19, 15:06
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2019-12-19, 14:11
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2019-12-19, 12:49
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2019-12-19, 08:22
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2019-12-18, 14:38
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2019-12-18, 13:10
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Cody Miller,
2019-12-18, 11:56
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Cody Miller,
2019-12-18, 08:41
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squidnh3,
2019-12-18, 09:06
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- Mando tie-in -
ManKitten,
2019-12-18, 09:33
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- Should've got those nice Russo boys to do it. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-18, 12:01
- +1 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-18, 12:17
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- +1 -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-18, 12:25
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SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-18, 12:28
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- +1 -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-18, 12:28
- +1 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-18, 12:17
- Silver Lining (CATS Reviews) -
INSANEdrive,
2019-12-18, 21:08
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- I worked on both -
someotherguy,
2019-12-20, 03:08
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- Silver Lining (CATS Reviews) - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-20, 09:08
- I liked it. Good SW movie. -
ZackDark,
2019-12-19, 05:27
- Glad to hear it :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-19, 07:16
- +1 - Kermit, 2019-12-19, 13:01
- Should have had Abrams do the first 2, then RJ do 3rd movie -
Spec ops Grunt,
2019-12-21, 04:43
- +1 - INSANEdrive, 2019-12-21, 08:27
- Disney finally killed it -
Korny,
2019-12-18, 08:17