Investment team didn't decide to make a game with no content (Destiny)

by Cody Miller , Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, December 15, 2014, 12:29 (3444 days ago) @ scarab

So even the best, content rich games that I have played just fizzle out. Not one of them would last (3?) years of continuous play.

They don't need to.

If you can create a game with 40 hours of honest to goodness content, then a player will play and finish in 40 hours. If you take that same game and string it out to 100 or 200 hours with investment stuff, padding, and filler, you can't magically create new content. The player is still playing the 40 hours of actual fun stuff, but this time they are also playing 160 hours of tedium, repetition, or easy boring stuff. They aren't any better off, so you might as well just not waste their time and give them what you can as quickly as they can complete it.

Who the cares if people aren't playing your game three years from now? That metric is so meaningless as to actually be detrimental.

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Pretty scathing opinion piece on Polygon - Speedracer513, 2014-12-15, 10:23
- Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 10:34
  - Radiant Materials - EffortlessFury, 2014-12-15, 10:36
    - Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 10:40
      - Radiant Materials - Speedracer513, 2014-12-15, 10:57
        
        Radiant Materials - stabbim, 2014-12-15, 12:37
  - Radiant Materials - Blackt1g3r, 2014-12-15, 10:46
    - Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 10:48
      - Radiant Materials - petetheduck, 2014-12-15, 11:28
        
        I feel no attachment to my gear - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 11:33
        
        Radiant Materials - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-15, 12:07
        
        Radiant Materials - petetheduck, 2014-12-15, 12:45
        
        Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:49
      - Radiant Materials - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 12:05
        
        Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:12
        
        Radiant Materials - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 12:15
        
        Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:19
        
        Radiant Materials - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 12:24
        
        Radiant Materials - stabbim, 2014-12-15, 12:42
        
        Radiant Materials - Ragashingo, 2014-12-15, 12:48
        
        Radiant Materials - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 12:58
        
        Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 13:03
        
        Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:59
        
        Radiant Materials - ZackDark, 2014-12-15, 13:02
        
        Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 13:04
        
        +1, tbh - ZackDark, 2014-12-15, 13:07
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Revenant1988, 2014-12-15, 12:49
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:53
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 13:15
        
        Either way, that's a lot - Revenant1988, 2014-12-15, 13:20
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 13:59
        
        Does psn track play time? That could corroborate with b.net - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 14:18
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - RC, 2014-12-15, 14:39
        
        Only 1 more than Levi - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 14:43
        
        Only 1 more than Levi - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:57
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 13:28
        
        You never will understand because you don't listen - scarab, 2014-12-15, 13:34
        
        You never will understand because you don't listen - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 13:52
        
        You never will understand because you don't listen - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 13:55
        
        Echo Chamber, guys - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 13:57
        
        You never will understand because you don't listen - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:11
        
        You've been asking that question for the last 3 months - scarab, 2014-12-15, 14:08
        
        You've been asking that question for the last 3 months - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:31
        
        You've been asking that question for the last 3 months - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 14:38
        
        asking the same question repeatedly and apparently - scarab, 2014-12-15, 15:03
        
        asking the same question repeatedly and apparently - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 15:48
        
        Don't listen to him. - ckamp, 2014-12-19, 08:38
        
        asking the same question repeatedly and apparently - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 08:04
        
        asking the same question repeatedly and apparently - scarab, 2014-12-19, 10:21
        
        asking the same question repeatedly and apparently - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 10:51
        
        asking the same question repeatedly and apparently - Cody Miller, 2014-12-19, 10:56
        
        Exploring - Leviathan, 2014-12-19, 14:31
        
        That's a big post :-) - scarab, 2014-12-21, 02:22
        
        Exploring - scarab, 2014-12-21, 04:29
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 13:43
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:08
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 14:15
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:44
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 14:52
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 15:52
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 15:59
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Speedracer513, 2014-12-15, 16:03
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 16:10
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 16:08
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 08:09
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Revenant1988, 2014-12-15, 13:46
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 13:48
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - Revenant1988, 2014-12-15, 13:55
        
        I *actually* LOLd at this - Speedracer513, 2014-12-15, 13:57
        
        That's because you play as it was designed. - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-15, 13:56
        
        games with investment systems are NOT designed to be - scarab, 2014-12-15, 14:19
        
        games with investment systems are NOT designed to be - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 08:23
        
        games with investment systems are NOT designed to be - Cody Miller, 2014-12-19, 10:46
        
        games with investment systems are NOT designed to be - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 11:00
        
        games with investment systems are NOT designed to be - Cody Miller, 2014-12-19, 11:10
        
        games with investment systems are NOT designed to be - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 11:12
        
        Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind - scarab, 2014-12-19, 11:00
        
        Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 11:07
        
        Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind - Cody Miller, 2014-12-19, 11:12
        
        Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 11:26
        
        Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind - dogcow, 2014-12-19, 12:30
  - Destiny has made me enjoy Dota more. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:17
    - Is this really a fair analogy? - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 11:20
      - Is this really a fair analogy? - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:23
      - Is this really a fair analogy? - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 11:28
        
        Hmm...you're on to something here. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 11:32
        
        Hmm...you're on to something here. - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 11:46
        
        Hmm...you're on to something here. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 11:51
        
        I'm bumming myself out - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 12:04
        
        You bums - ZackDark, 2014-12-15, 13:06
- Eh, whatever. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 10:52
  - Eh, whatever. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:21
    - Eh, whatever. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 11:27
    - Eh, whatever. - Revenant1988, 2014-12-15, 11:36
  - Eh, whatever. - unoudid, 2014-12-15, 13:17
    - You guys are happy-hardcore - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 13:54
      - I like that term! - unoudid, 2014-12-15, 14:59
- I honestly agree with this whole article. - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:12
  - I mean, I agree...I just don't really care, either :/ - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 11:14
- So we are all in agreement? - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:29
  - Nah. - RaichuKFM, 2014-12-15, 11:44
    - DBO: Taking a shard into the hellmouth - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:52
      - DBO: Taking a shard into the hellmouth - RaichuKFM, 2014-12-15, 12:09
  - So we are all in agreement? - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 11:50
    - So we are all in agreement? - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:56
      - So we are all in agreement? - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 12:09
        
        So we are all in agreement? - RaichuKFM, 2014-12-15, 12:10
        
        So we are all in agreement? - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 12:14
        
        So we are all in agreement? [img] - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 12:15
  - So we are all in agreement? - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:15
    - We need to build a statue. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 12:21
      - :p - Ragashingo, 2014-12-15, 12:26
      - We need to build a statue. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 14:37
        
        We need to build a statue. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:53
        
        We need to build a statue. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 14:54
        
        We need to build a statue. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 15:02
        
        We need to build a statue. - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 08:35
        
        We need to build a statue. - Cody Miller, 2014-12-19, 10:42
        
        We need to build a statue. - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 11:10
        
        The engineering talent isn't gone - scarab, 2014-12-15, 15:08
  - Investment team didn't decide to make a game with no content - scarab, 2014-12-15, 12:19
    - Investment team didn't decide to make a game with no content - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:29
      - I think they are being paid to be top of the charts - scarab, 2014-12-15, 13:24
- A weekend with Xur - unoudid, 2014-12-15, 14:08
  - A weekend with Xur - Durandal, 2014-12-15, 14:58
    - A weekend with Xur - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 15:00
      - A weekend with Xur - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 15:02
    - Broke for Iron Banner Now - unoudid, 2014-12-15, 15:01
      - Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was - Kahzgul, 2014-12-15, 18:02
        
        Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was - HavokBlue, 2014-12-15, 18:08
        
        Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was - Cody Miller, 2014-12-16, 04:14
        
        Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was - HavokBlue, 2014-12-16, 04:56
        
        Kill counts will stop too sometimes. - Revenant1988, 2014-12-16, 05:51
        
        Yep - ZackDark, 2014-12-16, 08:22
        
        Citadel on Venus - iconicbanana, 2014-12-16, 08:36
        
        Citadel on Venus - Cody Miller, 2014-12-16, 09:04
        
        Citadel on Venus - iconicbanana, 2014-12-16, 09:10
        
        You don't need 4 or 5 - ZackDark, 2014-12-16, 09:11
        
        You don't need 4 or 5 - iconicbanana, 2014-12-16, 09:16
        
        Fair enough :) - ZackDark, 2014-12-16, 09:22
        
        Citadel on Venus - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-16, 14:08
- So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* - HawaiianPig, 2014-12-15, 20:10
  - So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* - Cody Miller, 2014-12-16, 03:44
    - So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* - HawaiianPig, 2014-12-16, 21:32
      - Have you given up on gaming entirely? - scarab, 2014-12-17, 00:14
        
        Have you given up on gaming entirely? - HawaiianPig, 2014-12-18, 21:36
        
        If you are short on time then avoid Destiny - scarab, 2014-12-18, 23:42

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