More incentive talk
by Cody Miller 
, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Wednesday, July 10, 2013, 18:43 (3945 days ago) @ RC
edited by Cody Miller, Wednesday, July 10, 2013, 18:46
Incentives don't justify modes, they don't replace solid core gameplay. They're multipliers. Multiplying zero by anything still leaves you with zero.
They are divisors.
However when there is a reward involved, this alters the ability of the player to enjoy the moment to moment pleasure of the game, simply because now instead of focusing on the present, the player has to focus on future. If you are driven to play because of that reward, this shift prevents the player from merely enjoying the present moment on its own, since the expectation is now that the present moment carries later on a future reward. Obviously if you are not driven to play because of the reward, the reward is unnecessary. So by playing for a reward, you are undermining the inherent value of the game's moment to moment pleasures.
Complete thread:
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted -
Xenos,
2013-07-09, 07:09
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2013-07-09, 07:15
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Beorn,
2013-07-09, 09:59
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Xenos,
2013-07-09, 10:05
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Xenos,
2013-07-09, 10:05
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INSANEdrive,
2013-07-09, 10:12
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Xenos,
2013-07-09, 10:18
- Quote I liked - car15, 2013-07-09, 10:34
- Still sticking with Hunter
- Balance - kapowaz, 2013-07-10, 23:51
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - electricpirate, 2013-07-09, 07:24
- Great interview, but... - car15, 2013-07-09, 09:24
- More incentive talk -
Stephen Laughlin,
2013-07-09, 11:02
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Xenos,
2013-07-09, 11:07
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MrPadraig08,
2013-07-09, 11:38
- Well said. -
Xenos,
2013-07-09, 12:00
- More incentive talk - kapowaz, 2013-07-10, 23:48
- Well said.
- +1 - Leviathan, 2013-07-09, 11:59
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MrPadraig08,
2013-07-09, 11:38
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-09, 14:51
- More incentive talk -
RC,
2013-07-10, 05:16
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-10, 09:47
- More incentive talk -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-10, 14:09
- More incentive talk - MrPadraig08, 2013-07-11, 08:53
- More incentive talk -
RC,
2013-07-10, 17:38
- More incentive talk - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-07-10, 18:21
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-10, 18:43
- More incentive talk - Stephen Laughlin, 2013-07-10, 20:15
- More incentive talk -
RC,
2013-07-11, 13:14
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 14:08
- More incentive talk - RC, 2013-07-11, 15:24
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 14:08
- More incentive talk -
cheapLEY,
2013-07-10, 21:31
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Ragashingo,
2013-07-10, 21:55
- More incentive talk - cheapLEY, 2013-07-10, 22:15
- More incentive talk -
Ragashingo,
2013-07-10, 21:55
- More incentive talk -
Tails,
2013-07-10, 22:47
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 00:23
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kapowaz,
2013-07-11, 01:57
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 10:48
- More incentive talk - Claude Errera, 2013-07-11, 12:03
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kapowaz,
2013-07-11, 14:41
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 14:46
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JDQuackers,
2013-07-11, 14:51
- More incentive talk - kapowaz, 2013-07-11, 23:44
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ZackDark,
2013-07-11, 15:02
- More incentive talk - Cody Miller, 2013-07-12, 11:11
- More incentive talk - kapowaz, 2013-07-11, 23:49
- More incentive talk -
JDQuackers,
2013-07-11, 14:51
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 14:46
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 10:48
- More incentive talk -
Tails,
2013-07-11, 02:40
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 10:55
- More incentive talk - Xenos, 2013-07-11, 10:59
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RC,
2013-07-11, 13:24
- More incentive talk - Cody Miller, 2013-07-11, 14:29
- More incentive talk - Tails, 2013-07-11, 13:28
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 10:55
- More incentive talk - General Vagueness, 2013-07-17, 17:30
- More incentive talk -
kapowaz,
2013-07-11, 01:57
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 00:23
- One small correction -
narcogen,
2013-07-12, 00:34
- One small correction -
kapowaz,
2013-07-12, 01:27
- One small correction - Kermit, 2013-07-12, 06:33
- One small correction -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-12, 01:39
- One small correction - kapowaz, 2013-07-12, 03:16
- One small correction -
Claude Errera,
2013-07-12, 04:39
- One small correction -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-12, 08:18
- One small correction - narcogen, 2013-07-12, 22:50
- One small correction -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-12, 08:18
- One small correction - narcogen, 2013-07-12, 22:49
- One small correction -
kapowaz,
2013-07-12, 01:27
- More incentive talk -
marmot 1333,
2013-07-10, 14:09
- More incentive talk -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-10, 09:47
- More incentive talk - kapowaz, 2013-07-10, 23:36
- More incentive talk - General Vagueness, 2013-07-17, 16:09
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RC,
2013-07-10, 05:16
- agreed... - Jabberwok, 2013-07-12, 10:22
- More incentive talk -
Xenos,
2013-07-09, 11:07
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix -
Ze Moose,
2013-07-09, 16:10
- I think so - Beorn, 2013-07-09, 16:15
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-09, 19:19
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix -
Leviathan,
2013-07-09, 19:44
- Wow, those pictures are AWESOME. -
NsU Soldier,
2013-07-13, 20:28
- Wow, those pictures are AWESOME.
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix -
narcogen,
2013-07-12, 00:37
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix -
General Vagueness,
2013-07-17, 18:02
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix - Pyromancy, 2013-07-17, 20:37
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix -
General Vagueness,
2013-07-17, 18:02
- Oh dang, they talk about Phoenix -
Leviathan,
2013-07-09, 19:44
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - uberfoop, 2013-07-09, 20:04
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted -
Jabberwok,
2013-07-12, 10:31
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - Xenos, 2013-07-12, 10:42
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - Ragashingo, 2013-07-12, 11:29
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted -
General Vagueness,
2013-07-17, 16:27
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - General Vagueness, 2013-07-22, 09:43
- Quote I liked -
Xenos,
2013-07-09, 07:15