More incentive talk
by Cody Miller 
, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, July 11, 2013, 00:23 (3945 days ago) @ Tails
Those Portal challenges that were so awesome? Those were "incentives" to replay the level (quickest time, fewest portals etc. - they encourage you to play the exact same content but in a different way).
Would you perhaps concede that (as is virtually always the case) implementation is king, and that Valve simply got it right where others sometimes get it wrong?
I think puzzle games operate a little differently. The challenges aren't really incentives, so much as new puzzles. Ok, now beat this chamber using 6 or fewer portals. You have to think and solve a totally new puzzle. This is pretty different than giving rewards for tasks in game, since the whole point of a puzzle game is to solve puzzles, and the challenges are themselves new puzzles.
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2013-07-09, 07:09
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2013-07-09, 10:18
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- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - electricpirate, 2013-07-09, 07:24
- Great interview, but... - car15, 2013-07-09, 09:24
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2013-07-09, 11:02
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2013-07-09, 11:07
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MrPadraig08,
2013-07-09, 11:38
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Xenos,
2013-07-09, 12:00
- More incentive talk - kapowaz, 2013-07-10, 23:48
- Well said.
- +1 - Leviathan, 2013-07-09, 11:59
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MrPadraig08,
2013-07-09, 11:38
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2013-07-09, 14:51
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RC,
2013-07-10, 05:16
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-10, 09:47
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2013-07-10, 14:09
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2013-07-10, 17:38
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-10, 18:43
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2013-07-11, 13:14
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2013-07-11, 14:08
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2013-07-11, 14:08
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2013-07-10, 21:31
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2013-07-10, 21:55
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2013-07-10, 21:55
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2013-07-10, 22:47
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2013-07-11, 00:23
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2013-07-11, 01:57
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2013-07-11, 10:48
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2013-07-11, 14:41
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2013-07-11, 14:46
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2013-07-11, 14:51
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2013-07-11, 15:02
- More incentive talk - Cody Miller, 2013-07-12, 11:11
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2013-07-11, 14:51
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2013-07-11, 14:46
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2013-07-11, 10:48
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2013-07-11, 02:40
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2013-07-11, 10:55
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2013-07-11, 13:24
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2013-07-11, 10:55
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2013-07-11, 01:57
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-11, 00:23
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narcogen,
2013-07-12, 00:34
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kapowaz,
2013-07-12, 01:27
- One small correction - Kermit, 2013-07-12, 06:33
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-12, 01:39
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Claude Errera,
2013-07-12, 04:39
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-12, 08:18
- One small correction - narcogen, 2013-07-12, 22:50
- One small correction -
Cody Miller,
2013-07-12, 08:18
- One small correction - narcogen, 2013-07-12, 22:49
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kapowaz,
2013-07-12, 01:27
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marmot 1333,
2013-07-10, 14:09
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-10, 09:47
- More incentive talk - kapowaz, 2013-07-10, 23:36
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RC,
2013-07-10, 05:16
- agreed... - Jabberwok, 2013-07-12, 10:22
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Xenos,
2013-07-09, 11:07
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Ze Moose,
2013-07-09, 16:10
- I think so - Beorn, 2013-07-09, 16:15
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Cody Miller,
2013-07-09, 19:19
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2013-07-09, 19:44
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2013-07-13, 20:28
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2013-07-12, 00:37
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2013-07-17, 18:02
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2013-07-17, 18:02
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Leviathan,
2013-07-09, 19:44
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - uberfoop, 2013-07-09, 20:04
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted -
Jabberwok,
2013-07-12, 10:31
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - Xenos, 2013-07-12, 10:42
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - Ragashingo, 2013-07-12, 11:29
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted -
General Vagueness,
2013-07-17, 16:27
- Pt. 3 of Jason Jones Interview posted - General Vagueness, 2013-07-22, 09:43
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