I get what he's saying (Destiny)
The thing is they're not valuing that stuff at $40, they're valuing it at $20. There's a package with just the new expansion that's $40, there's a package with the base game and all three expansions for $60, and there's a package with the base game, all three expansions, and digital and physical swag for $80. They're putting the value of the swag at about $20. What's more interesting is that going by this they're putting of the base game and the first two expansions at about $20 too. Obviously these are package deals so the price is going to be lower, but presumably it's still in the ballpark.
I don't think you can ever look at packaged deals in such a simple light. It works in middle school math, but not in economics and marketing. For example, you can't subtract the cost of software from a computer you buy and arrive at the "real" value of the computer.
For example, Let's assume the following for a moment:
- That Destiny and the expansions have paid for themselves already, which means that the "$20" extra for them is pure profit.
- That the new swag costs $21 just to make, meaning if sold by its self they would actually lose money at that pricing.
Now for the economic trick, if Bungie packages the swag with something that is pure profit, and that causes additional sales they wouldn't have otherwise made, than they net $19 for each collectors addition. Even if the collectors edition cannibalizes some sales, the difference is only $1, meaning they only need to sell one new copy to make up for 19 cannibalized sales.
Note: I don't think the above is realistic, but it's an example of the way things are packaged, and why many companies don't break things out into individual parts. Economics are not basic subtraction math.
For the record, I'd love to have some of the collectors stuff too but don't want to pay $40 for it. That's too much for what I consider items of value in that package.
Complete thread:
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-06-22, 18:56
- Wow.
- CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 18:58
- Wasn't as bad as I feared... - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 19:17
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Mad_Stylus,
2015-06-22, 19:23
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:27
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 12:44
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:27
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:32
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Korny,
2015-06-22, 19:34
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:50
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - General Vagueness, 2015-06-22, 20:25
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Leviathan,
2015-06-22, 19:58
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:22
- Disagree -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 20:55
- Totally agree with this... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 21:15
- And I agree with you! -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 21:23
- Convenient, no?
- someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:33
- Convenient, no?
- And I agree with you! -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 21:23
- Disagree -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-23, 00:47
- Don't answer the questions then - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 10:52
- Disagree - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 06:13
- Totally agree with this... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 21:15
- Disagree -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 20:55
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:22
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 02:44
- Posting broken images, Mig? - Korny, 2015-06-23, 15:07
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:50
- I get what he's saying -
yakaman,
2015-06-22, 19:37
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:45
- I get what he's saying - Relativiox, 2015-06-22, 19:58
- I get what he's saying -
yakaman,
2015-06-22, 20:25
- I get what he's saying - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 20:49
- I get what he's saying - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 01:17
- I get what he's saying - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:52
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:45
- I get what he's saying - Leviathan, 2015-06-22, 20:03
- I get what he's saying -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:06
- I get what he's saying - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 21:14
- No, no. Early adoption is worth it very often. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:46
- Those things are not worth $40 -
someotherguy,
2015-06-22, 23:31
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 01:05
- +1 - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:49
- Value propositions. -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 10:25
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 12:21
- Yeah, looks like it. Looking forward to the BWU now
- someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 12:22
- Yeah, looks like it. Looking forward to the BWU now
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 12:21
- Value propositions. - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 11:33
- Yep, good analysis
- Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-06-23, 12:40
- Value propositions. -
Jillybean,
2015-06-23, 18:40
- Value propositions. - narcogen, 2015-06-24, 22:53
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 01:05
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Korny,
2015-06-22, 19:34
- Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 19:52
- Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? - stabbim, 2015-06-23, 00:34
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 20:28
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 20:37
- He said it himself - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:28
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 04:04
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - car15, 2015-06-22, 21:03
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-22, 21:08
- Only ~9 more years.
- CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 21:10
- If only your name was Taylor Swift... :p
- Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:22
- Only ~9 more years.
- Yeah. :(
- Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:09
- Hope bungie reads this... -
slycrel,
2015-06-23, 01:08
- Hope bungie reads this... -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:21
- I thought TTK was current-gen only
- ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 22:49
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 23:04
- I hope I'm wrong, mind you -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- TTK Physical Collector's Edition is current-gen only - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 01:29
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case - unoudid, 2015-06-24, 02:55
- I hope I'm wrong, mind you -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 23:04
- I thought TTK was current-gen only
- Hope bungie reads this... -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:21
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - mnemesis, 2015-06-23, 01:17
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:42
- Good point.
- Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 01:52
- Good point.
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 20:37
- I much prefer a frank interview like this -
Monochron,
2015-06-22, 21:25
- Uh, he sounded pretty interested in it -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:51
- No, actually quite the oposite - Monochron, 2015-06-24, 15:18
- Uh, he sounded pretty interested in it -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:51
- Reads like Lukems. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:39
- Wearing his own ass as a hat. - narcogen, 2015-06-23, 00:58
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 03:57
- Making sure I have this right -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 04:38
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Making sure I have this right - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 05:21
- Making sure I have this right -
Leviathan,
2015-06-23, 05:49
- Yeah, honestly if you're just buying TTK, it's a steal.
- iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:41
- Making sure I have this right -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 18:30
- Making sure I have this right - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 18:33
- Yeah, honestly if you're just buying TTK, it's a steal.
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Making sure I have this right -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 04:38
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 04:39
- Yep. - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 05:40
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:54
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 08:36
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Funkmon,
2015-06-23, 09:15
- Hold on now... - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 15:57
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 10:13
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:10
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:20
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:33
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-23, 18:18
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:20
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:10
- Wow -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 11:43
- Wow -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 12:46
- +1 for almost everything -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 12:51
- Thanks for mentioning it. - Vortech, 2015-06-23, 18:25
- About sums up my feelings.
- iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:53
- Wow -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 13:17
- Oh hell, you made me agree with Cody :p - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:48
- Wow - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 14:50
- A calmer response -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 14:06
- A calmer response -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:31
- A calmer response - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:36
- A calmer response - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 14:41
- A calmer response - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:39
- A calmer response - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 16:48
- A calmer response -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:31
- Wow - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:24
- +1 for almost everything -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 12:51
- Wow - extra-credit - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 12:47
- Wow -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 12:46
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 12:30
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:08
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 13:14
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 13:22
- I mean . . . this REALLY seems like sensationalism -
Monochron,
2015-06-23, 14:13
- Click-bait. -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:52
- I'm outraged that you can't relate. ;)
- Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 18:55
- Click-bait. - RaichuKFM, 2015-06-23, 21:58
- Click-bait. - Vortech, 2015-06-24, 00:39
- I'm outraged that you can't relate. ;)
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 03:36
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 15:29
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 17:14
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 18:10
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-25, 02:27
- I'm going to explain this again simply - Monochron, 2015-06-25, 12:40
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-25, 02:27
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 18:10
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 17:14
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 15:29
- Click-bait. -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:52
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:42
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:45
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-06-23, 14:50
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:45
- I mean . . . this REALLY seems like sensationalism -
Monochron,
2015-06-23, 14:13
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:08
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 12:36
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:40
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Funkmon,
2015-06-23, 09:15
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 08:36
- Deej responds to the response -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Here is the forum thread - Relativiox, 2015-06-23, 08:23
- What happened to you Bungie? -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 10:15
- What happened to you Bungie? -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 17:14
- Read it the same way.
- Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:36
- Yeah, I was in a bad mood today. - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 20:19
- Read it the same way.
- What happened to you Bungie? -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 17:14
- Finally read the interview. Luke is great. - ProbablyLast, 2015-06-23, 11:23
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 12:30
- Holy cow
- ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 12:47
- The cost of being a collector. -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:15
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 14:18
- The cost of being a collector. -
Harmanimus,
2015-06-24, 01:56
- The cost of being a collector. -
Speedracer513,
2015-06-24, 10:48
- That counts as "fun" in my books
- ZackDark, 2015-06-24, 12:03
- That counts as "fun" in my books
- The cost of being a collector. -
Speedracer513,
2015-06-24, 10:48
- The cost of being a collector. -
Harmanimus,
2015-06-24, 01:56
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 14:18
- Holy cow
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-23, 12:32
- Golden Warlock Turd confirmed.
- yakaman, 2015-06-23, 16:00
- Golden Warlock Turd OP. Bingle PLZ Nerf
- unoudid, 2015-06-23, 16:04
- Golden Warlock Turd OP. Bingle PLZ Nerf
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 18:00
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
slycrel,
2015-06-24, 02:01
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 02:33
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
slycrel,
2015-06-24, 02:01
- Golden Warlock Turd confirmed.
- boils down to selling more of the base game to pad numbers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:32
- From these comments I expected Luke to come off badly -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:50
- One nit - Beorn, 2015-06-23, 16:00
- It's all relative -
Earendil,
2015-06-23, 16:36
- It's all relative - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 17:01
- It's all relative - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 21:51
- Wow.