Value propositions. (Destiny)

by narcogen , Andover, Massachusetts, Tuesday, June 23, 2015, 12:21 (3249 days ago) @ someotherguy

Veteran players are assuming this package is aimed at them. It is not. It quite obviously is not.

Luke: We've set some stuff aside for that edition specifically to really make it appeal to fans who have engaged with the game already.

It's not aimed at us entirely, but they sure as hell knew some of us would consider it, and threw a few things in there to intentionally make the decision harder for existing fans.

Sure, because not doing that is leaving money on the table.

On the other hand, Luke is really not deft enough to talk about this stuff.

Time for Deej to do damage control, I expect-- which I think he's already doing.

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Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-06-22, 18:56
- Wow. - CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 18:58
- Wasn't as bad as I feared... - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 19:17
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers - Mad_Stylus, 2015-06-22, 19:23
  - Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers - Vortech, 2015-06-23, 01:27
    - Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 12:44
- I get what he's saying - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 19:32
  - It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - Korny, 2015-06-22, 19:34
    - It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 19:50
      - It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - General Vagueness, 2015-06-22, 20:25
    - It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - Leviathan, 2015-06-22, 19:58
      - It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - General Vagueness, 2015-06-22, 20:22
        
        Disagree - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 20:55
        
        Totally agree with this... - Claude Errera, 2015-06-22, 21:15
        
        And I agree with you! - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 21:23
        
        Convenient, no? - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:33
        
        Disagree - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 00:47
        
        Don't answer the questions then - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 10:52
        
        Disagree - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 06:13
    - It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:44
      - Posting broken images, Mig? - Korny, 2015-06-23, 15:07
  - I get what he's saying - yakaman, 2015-06-22, 19:37
    - I get what he's saying - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 19:45
      - I get what he's saying - Relativiox, 2015-06-22, 19:58
      - I get what he's saying - yakaman, 2015-06-22, 20:25
        
        I get what he's saying - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 20:49
        
        I get what he's saying - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 01:17
        
        I get what he's saying - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:52
  - I get what he's saying - Leviathan, 2015-06-22, 20:03
  - I get what he's saying - General Vagueness, 2015-06-22, 20:06
    - I get what he's saying - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 21:14
    - No, no. Early adoption is worth it very often. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:46
  - Those things are not worth $40 - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:31
    - Value propositions. - narcogen, 2015-06-23, 01:05
      - +1 - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:49
      - Value propositions. - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 10:25
        
        Value propositions. - narcogen, 2015-06-23, 12:21
        
        Yeah, looks like it. Looking forward to the BWU now - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 12:22
      - Value propositions. - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 11:33
      - Yep, good analysis - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-06-23, 12:40
      - Value propositions. - Jillybean, 2015-06-23, 18:40
        
        Value propositions. - narcogen, 2015-06-24, 22:53
- Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? - iconicbanana, 2015-06-22, 19:52
  - Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? - stabbim, 2015-06-23, 00:34
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-06-22, 20:28
  - Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? - iconicbanana, 2015-06-22, 20:37
    - He said it himself - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:28
    - Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 04:04
  - Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - car15, 2015-06-22, 21:03
  - Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - Cody Miller, 2015-06-22, 21:08
    - Only ~9 more years. - CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 21:10
    - If only your name was Taylor Swift... :p - Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:22
  - Yeah. :( - Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:09
  - Hope bungie reads this... - slycrel, 2015-06-23, 01:08
    - Hope bungie reads this... - Kermit, 2015-06-23, 18:21
      - I thought TTK was current-gen only - ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 22:49
        
        I'm pretty sure that's not the case - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-23, 23:04
        
        I hope I'm wrong, mind you - ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 23:16
        
        TTK Physical Collector's Edition is current-gen only - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 01:29
        
        I'm pretty sure that's not the case - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 23:16
        
        I'm pretty sure that's not the case - unoudid, 2015-06-24, 02:55
  - Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - mnemesis, 2015-06-23, 01:17
  - Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - Vortech, 2015-06-23, 01:42
    - Good point. - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 01:52
- I much prefer a frank interview like this - Monochron, 2015-06-22, 21:25
  - Uh, he sounded pretty interested in it - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 14:51
    - No, actually quite the oposite - Monochron, 2015-06-24, 15:18
- Reads like Lukems. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:39
- Wearing his own ass as a hat. - narcogen, 2015-06-23, 00:58
- Making sure I have this right - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 03:57
  - Making sure I have this right - Claude Errera, 2015-06-23, 04:38
    - Making sure I have this right - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 05:13
      - Making sure I have this right - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 05:21
      - Making sure I have this right - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 05:49
        
        Yeah, honestly if you're just buying TTK, it's a steal. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:41
        
        Making sure I have this right - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:30
        
        Making sure I have this right - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 18:33
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 04:39
  - Yep. - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 05:40
  - The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 05:54
    - The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 08:36
      - The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 09:15
        
        Hold on now... - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 15:57
      - The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-23, 10:13
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 14:10
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 14:20
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:33
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-23, 18:18
      - Wow - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 11:43
        
        Wow - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 12:46
        
        +1 for almost everything - ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 12:51
        
        Thanks for mentioning it. - Vortech, 2015-06-23, 18:25
        
        About sums up my feelings. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:53
        
        Wow - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 13:17
        
        Oh hell, you made me agree with Cody :p - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:48
        
        Wow - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 14:50
        
        Wow - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 15:18
        
        Wow - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 16:00
        
        Wow - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 16:04
        
        Wow - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 16:25
        
        Wow - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 17:51
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2015-06-23, 18:02
        
        Wow - Claude Errera, 2015-06-23, 16:54
        
        Wow - Harmanimus, 2015-06-24, 01:19
        
        A calmer response - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:06
        
        A calmer response - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 14:31
        
        A calmer response - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:36
        
        A calmer response - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 14:41
        
        A calmer response - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:39
        
        A calmer response - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 16:48
        
        Wow - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:24
        
        Wow - extra-credit - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 12:47
      - The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 12:30
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 13:08
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 13:14
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 13:22
        
        I mean . . . this REALLY seems like sensationalism - Monochron, 2015-06-23, 14:13
        
        Click-bait. - Kermit, 2015-06-23, 18:52
        
        I'm outraged that you can't relate. ;) - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 18:55
        
        Click-bait. - RaichuKFM, 2015-06-23, 21:58
        
        Click-bait. - Vortech, 2015-06-24, 00:39
        
        I'm going to explain this again simply - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-24, 03:36
        
        I'm going to explain this again simply - Monochron, 2015-06-24, 15:29
        
        I'm going to explain this again simply - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-24, 17:14
        
        I'm going to explain this again simply - Monochron, 2015-06-24, 18:10
        
        I'm going to explain this again simply - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-25, 02:27
        
        I'm going to explain this again simply - Monochron, 2015-06-25, 12:40
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 14:42
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 14:45
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-06-23, 14:50
      - The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 12:36
        
        The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:40
- Deej responds to the response - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 05:13
  - Here is the forum thread - Relativiox, 2015-06-23, 08:23
  - What happened to you Bungie? - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 10:15
    - What happened to you Bungie? - Claude Errera, 2015-06-23, 17:14
      - Read it the same way. - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:36
      - Yeah, I was in a bad mood today. - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 20:19
- Finally read the interview. Luke is great. - ProbablyLast, 2015-06-23, 11:23
- The cost of being a collector. - unoudid, 2015-06-23, 12:30
  - Holy cow - ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 12:47
  - The cost of being a collector. - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 13:15
    - The cost of being a collector. - unoudid, 2015-06-23, 14:18
      - The cost of being a collector. - Harmanimus, 2015-06-24, 01:56
        
        The cost of being a collector. - Speedracer513, 2015-06-24, 10:48
        
        That counts as "fun" in my books - ZackDark, 2015-06-24, 12:03
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. - Revenant1988, 2015-06-23, 12:32
  - Golden Warlock Turd confirmed. - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 16:00
    - Golden Warlock Turd OP. Bingle PLZ Nerf - unoudid, 2015-06-23, 16:04
  - Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:00
    - Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. - slycrel, 2015-06-24, 02:01
      - Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 02:33
- boils down to selling more of the base game to pad numbers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:32
- From these comments I expected Luke to come off badly - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 14:50
  - One nit - Beorn, 2015-06-23, 16:00
    - One nit - unoudid, 2015-06-23, 16:03
      - One nit - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 17:49
    - One nit - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 16:08
      - One nit - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 21:54
    - One nit - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 21:47
      - One nit - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 22:36
        
        One nit - Kahzgul, 2015-06-24, 06:19
  - It's all relative - Earendil, 2015-06-23, 16:36
    - It's all relative - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 17:01
    - It's all relative - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 21:51

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