I get what he's saying (Destiny)
And on top of that, Bungie is tossing in the original game and first two expansions for FREE!
There, now you aren't paying for something you already have.
Except that most hardcore players already have that stuff. Further, many here forked out good money already for Collector's editions or whatever.
They already have stuff given away for free? Well good thing it's free and they can just throw it in the trash.
My point here is that you can't give value to any that was purchased previously. Because their precedent is to make previous DLC free to anyone (i.e. Dark Below became free with release of HoW), then we can assume those would be free anyway. One can't make the claim 'but they're getting the full game too'.
They didn't give everyone The Dark Below. I didn't buy any DLC and I'm still locked out of all of the content except Eris's bounties, the public things like the Eyes of Crota, and the multiplayer maps. The only thing they made free recently was the multiplayer maps.
This doesn't pass the smell test. It's business, and if they can get people to pay again, that's fine. But it's sketchy.
Out of curiosity, what would you be willing to pay for that list of collectors edition things? Less than $40 I take it, so maybe $30? $20? Here is that list again to remind you
- Collector's Edition SteelBook™ Case
- Modified Treasure Island Book with intro Letter from Cayde-6
- Cayde-6's Personal Notes and Illustrations
- Collection of Relics and Artifacts
- Strange Coin Replica
- Three Class Specific Emotes
- Three Armor Shaders
- Three Exotic Class Items with XP Bonuses
So here we are. The only thing above I care about...and I mean the only thing, are the dance emotes. The only way to get them is to pay $40. Even better (worse?) I only roll 1 character, so it's $40 for 1 dance emote. Now you say, if it's not worth it to you, don't buy it! Which is fine, but I am of the opinion that the dance emotes are what will matter to most people - which is specifically why they were placed behind the $40 paywall. And now we slide into sketchy territory. So, to be clear: to me, specifically, it stinks.EDIT: missed this the first go-round. I'd like to pay $5 for the dance emote.
Is there an issue here? I don't know; it will largely depend on how each person feels about the game.
...
Holy shit, did I just spend 10 minutes of my life writing a post about dance emotes?
You should see the chat I'm in, I've been arguing for like 40 minutes how Bungie and Activision are not greedy assholes who are doing something clearly wrong by not offering a version with swag and without the other expansions and the base game.
Complete thread:
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-06-22, 18:56
- Wow. - CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 18:58
- Wasn't as bad as I feared... - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 19:17
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Mad_Stylus,
2015-06-22, 19:23
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:27
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 12:44
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:27
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:32
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Korny,
2015-06-22, 19:34
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:50
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - General Vagueness, 2015-06-22, 20:25
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Leviathan,
2015-06-22, 19:58
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:22
- Disagree -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 20:55
- Totally agree with this... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 21:15
- And I agree with you! -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 21:23
- Convenient, no? - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:33
- And I agree with you! -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 21:23
- Disagree -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-23, 00:47
- Don't answer the questions then - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 10:52
- Disagree - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 06:13
- Totally agree with this... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 21:15
- Disagree -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 20:55
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:22
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 02:44
- Posting broken images, Mig? - Korny, 2015-06-23, 15:07
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:50
- I get what he's saying -
yakaman,
2015-06-22, 19:37
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:45
- I get what he's saying - Relativiox, 2015-06-22, 19:58
- I get what he's saying -
yakaman,
2015-06-22, 20:25
- I get what he's saying - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 20:49
- I get what he's saying - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 01:17
- I get what he's saying - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:52
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:45
- I get what he's saying - Leviathan, 2015-06-22, 20:03
- I get what he's saying -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:06
- I get what he's saying - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 21:14
- No, no. Early adoption is worth it very often. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:46
- Those things are not worth $40 -
someotherguy,
2015-06-22, 23:31
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 01:05
- +1 - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:49
- Value propositions. -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 10:25
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 12:21
- Yeah, looks like it. Looking forward to the BWU now - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 12:22
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 12:21
- Value propositions. - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 11:33
- Yep, good analysis - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-06-23, 12:40
- Value propositions. -
Jillybean,
2015-06-23, 18:40
- Value propositions. - narcogen, 2015-06-24, 22:53
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 01:05
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Korny,
2015-06-22, 19:34
- Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 19:52
- Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? - stabbim, 2015-06-23, 00:34
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 20:28
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 20:37
- He said it himself - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:28
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 04:04
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - car15, 2015-06-22, 21:03
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-22, 21:08
- Only ~9 more years. - CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 21:10
- If only your name was Taylor Swift... :p - Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:22
- Yeah. :( - Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:09
- Hope bungie reads this... -
slycrel,
2015-06-23, 01:08
- Hope bungie reads this... -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:21
- I thought TTK was current-gen only -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 22:49
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 23:04
- I hope I'm wrong, mind you -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- TTK Physical Collector's Edition is current-gen only - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 01:29
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case - unoudid, 2015-06-24, 02:55
- I hope I'm wrong, mind you -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 23:04
- I thought TTK was current-gen only -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 22:49
- Hope bungie reads this... -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:21
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - mnemesis, 2015-06-23, 01:17
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:42
- Good point. - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 01:52
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 20:37
- I much prefer a frank interview like this -
Monochron,
2015-06-22, 21:25
- Uh, he sounded pretty interested in it -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:51
- No, actually quite the oposite - Monochron, 2015-06-24, 15:18
- Uh, he sounded pretty interested in it -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:51
- Reads like Lukems. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:39
- Wearing his own ass as a hat. - narcogen, 2015-06-23, 00:58
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 03:57
- Making sure I have this right -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 04:38
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Making sure I have this right - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 05:21
- Making sure I have this right -
Leviathan,
2015-06-23, 05:49
- Yeah, honestly if you're just buying TTK, it's a steal. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:41
- Making sure I have this right -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 18:30
- Making sure I have this right - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 18:33
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Making sure I have this right -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 04:38
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 04:39
- Yep. - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 05:40
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:54
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 08:36
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Funkmon,
2015-06-23, 09:15
- Hold on now... - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 15:57
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 10:13
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:10
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:20
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:33
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-23, 18:18
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:20
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:10
- Wow -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 11:43
- Wow -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 12:46
- +1 for almost everything -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 12:51
- Thanks for mentioning it. - Vortech, 2015-06-23, 18:25
- About sums up my feelings. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:53
- Wow -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 13:17
- Oh hell, you made me agree with Cody :p - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:48
- Wow - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 14:50
- A calmer response -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 14:06
- A calmer response -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:31
- A calmer response - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:36
- A calmer response - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 14:41
- A calmer response - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:39
- A calmer response - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 16:48
- A calmer response -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:31
- Wow - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:24
- +1 for almost everything -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 12:51
- Wow - extra-credit - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 12:47
- Wow -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 12:46
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 12:30
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:08
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 13:14
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 13:22
- I mean . . . this REALLY seems like sensationalism -
Monochron,
2015-06-23, 14:13
- Click-bait. -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:52
- I'm outraged that you can't relate. ;) - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 18:55
- Click-bait. - RaichuKFM, 2015-06-23, 21:58
- Click-bait. - Vortech, 2015-06-24, 00:39
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 03:36
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 15:29
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 17:14
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 18:10
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-25, 02:27
- I'm going to explain this again simply - Monochron, 2015-06-25, 12:40
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-25, 02:27
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 18:10
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 17:14
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 15:29
- Click-bait. -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:52
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:42
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:45
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-06-23, 14:50
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:45
- I mean . . . this REALLY seems like sensationalism -
Monochron,
2015-06-23, 14:13
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:08
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 12:36
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:40
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Funkmon,
2015-06-23, 09:15
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 08:36
- Deej responds to the response -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Here is the forum thread - Relativiox, 2015-06-23, 08:23
- What happened to you Bungie? -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 10:15
- What happened to you Bungie? -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 17:14
- Read it the same way. - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:36
- Yeah, I was in a bad mood today. - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 20:19
- What happened to you Bungie? -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 17:14
- Finally read the interview. Luke is great. - ProbablyLast, 2015-06-23, 11:23
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 12:30
- Holy cow - ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 12:47
- The cost of being a collector. -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:15
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 14:18
- The cost of being a collector. -
Harmanimus,
2015-06-24, 01:56
- The cost of being a collector. -
Speedracer513,
2015-06-24, 10:48
- That counts as "fun" in my books - ZackDark, 2015-06-24, 12:03
- The cost of being a collector. -
Speedracer513,
2015-06-24, 10:48
- The cost of being a collector. -
Harmanimus,
2015-06-24, 01:56
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 14:18
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-23, 12:32
- Golden Warlock Turd confirmed. -
yakaman,
2015-06-23, 16:00
- Golden Warlock Turd OP. Bingle PLZ Nerf - unoudid, 2015-06-23, 16:04
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 18:00
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
slycrel,
2015-06-24, 02:01
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 02:33
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
slycrel,
2015-06-24, 02:01
- Golden Warlock Turd confirmed. -
yakaman,
2015-06-23, 16:00
- boils down to selling more of the base game to pad numbers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:32
- From these comments I expected Luke to come off badly -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:50
- One nit - Beorn, 2015-06-23, 16:00
- It's all relative -
Earendil,
2015-06-23, 16:36
- It's all relative - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 17:01
- It's all relative - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 21:51