From these comments I expected Luke to come off badly (Destiny)
And he didn't, really. It was weird when he kept the interview focused on the shaders instead of moving forward, and his ominous rumblings about microtransactions don't make me particularly happy, but he wasn't an out and out a-hole like I expected him to be after reading these.
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It's been clear to me for a LONG time that Destiny is following a hybrid business model of Call of Duty and World of Warcraft. The gameplay loops, strike/dungeons, and various cosmetic items all scream WoW. The every-few-monts expansions (and their price points and content) are more reminiscent of CoD to me. This new "major expansion" is like buying one of WoW's expansions. And, to be fair, Destiny is doing this without a monthly subscription fee.
I will not be at all surprised if Destiny adds in things like $10 for a special spaceship or $5 for a new dance emote. And those additions will not ruin the game. They won't even make me sad, except when I see people buy them. I'm sorry, but a dance emote is not 1/4 of the content of an expansion. It's not even close. I get that your one animator had to work for a day or maybe two to make it, but that ain't worth $5 to over 1 million players.
That is, of course, why it's likely to happen. The ROI is huge for micro-transactional stuff like that. And if the expansions were free, I'd buy those things to support the game. But tying them to the collector's edition *only* is pretty lame (and, again, very WoW-like).
This game is a cash cow. It's designed, in every way, to milk our wallets to the last drop. No one should be surprised by this interview.
Complete thread:
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-06-22, 18:56
- Wow. - CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 18:58
- Wasn't as bad as I feared... - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 19:17
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Mad_Stylus,
2015-06-22, 19:23
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:27
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 12:44
- Someone get Lukems some coffee and a snickers -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:27
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:32
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Korny,
2015-06-22, 19:34
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:50
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... - General Vagueness, 2015-06-22, 20:25
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Leviathan,
2015-06-22, 19:58
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:22
- Disagree -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 20:55
- Totally agree with this... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 21:15
- And I agree with you! -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 21:23
- Convenient, no? - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:33
- And I agree with you! -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 21:23
- Disagree -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-23, 00:47
- Don't answer the questions then - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 10:52
- Disagree - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 06:13
- Totally agree with this... -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 21:15
- Disagree -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 20:55
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:22
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 02:44
- Posting broken images, Mig? - Korny, 2015-06-23, 15:07
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:50
- I get what he's saying -
yakaman,
2015-06-22, 19:37
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:45
- I get what he's saying - Relativiox, 2015-06-22, 19:58
- I get what he's saying -
yakaman,
2015-06-22, 20:25
- I get what he's saying - Kermit, 2015-06-22, 20:49
- I get what he's saying - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 01:17
- I get what he's saying - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:52
- I get what he's saying -
Earendil,
2015-06-22, 19:45
- I get what he's saying - Leviathan, 2015-06-22, 20:03
- I get what he's saying -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-22, 20:06
- I get what he's saying - Earendil, 2015-06-22, 21:14
- No, no. Early adoption is worth it very often. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:46
- Those things are not worth $40 -
someotherguy,
2015-06-22, 23:31
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 01:05
- +1 - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 02:49
- Value propositions. -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 10:25
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 12:21
- Yeah, looks like it. Looking forward to the BWU now - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 12:22
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 12:21
- Value propositions. - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 11:33
- Yep, good analysis - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-06-23, 12:40
- Value propositions. -
Jillybean,
2015-06-23, 18:40
- Value propositions. - narcogen, 2015-06-24, 22:53
- Value propositions. -
narcogen,
2015-06-23, 01:05
- It's not so much WHAT you say as it is HOW you say it... -
Korny,
2015-06-22, 19:34
- Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 19:52
- Does Bungie set these prices? Or does Activision? - stabbim, 2015-06-23, 00:34
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-22, 20:28
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 20:37
- He said it himself - someotherguy, 2015-06-22, 23:28
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 04:04
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - car15, 2015-06-22, 21:03
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-22, 21:08
- Only ~9 more years. - CyberKN, 2015-06-22, 21:10
- If only your name was Taylor Swift... :p - Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:22
- Yeah. :( - Ragashingo, 2015-06-22, 21:09
- Hope bungie reads this... -
slycrel,
2015-06-23, 01:08
- Hope bungie reads this... -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:21
- I thought TTK was current-gen only -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 22:49
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 23:04
- I hope I'm wrong, mind you -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- TTK Physical Collector's Edition is current-gen only - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 01:29
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case - unoudid, 2015-06-24, 02:55
- I hope I'm wrong, mind you -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 23:16
- I'm pretty sure that's not the case -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 23:04
- I thought TTK was current-gen only -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 22:49
- Hope bungie reads this... -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:21
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) - mnemesis, 2015-06-23, 01:17
- Nah, that's definitely Luke. :) -
Vortech,
2015-06-23, 01:42
- Good point. - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 01:52
- Why don't they offer $60 for TTK/Exotic Emotes w/o Vanilla? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-22, 20:37
- I much prefer a frank interview like this -
Monochron,
2015-06-22, 21:25
- Uh, he sounded pretty interested in it -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:51
- No, actually quite the oposite - Monochron, 2015-06-24, 15:18
- Uh, he sounded pretty interested in it -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:51
- Reads like Lukems. - Funkmon, 2015-06-23, 00:39
- Wearing his own ass as a hat. - narcogen, 2015-06-23, 00:58
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 03:57
- Making sure I have this right -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 04:38
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Making sure I have this right - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 05:21
- Making sure I have this right -
Leviathan,
2015-06-23, 05:49
- Yeah, honestly if you're just buying TTK, it's a steal. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:41
- Making sure I have this right -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 18:30
- Making sure I have this right - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 18:33
- Making sure I have this right -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Making sure I have this right -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 04:38
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 04:39
- Yep. - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 05:40
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 05:54
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 08:36
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Funkmon,
2015-06-23, 09:15
- Hold on now... - yakaman, 2015-06-23, 15:57
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-23, 10:13
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:10
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:20
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:33
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-23, 18:18
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:20
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:10
- Wow -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 11:43
- Wow -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 12:46
- +1 for almost everything -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 12:51
- Thanks for mentioning it. - Vortech, 2015-06-23, 18:25
- About sums up my feelings. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-23, 12:53
- Wow -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 13:17
- Oh hell, you made me agree with Cody :p - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:48
- Wow - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 14:50
- A calmer response -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 14:06
- A calmer response -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:31
- A calmer response - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 14:36
- A calmer response - Cody Miller, 2015-06-23, 14:41
- A calmer response - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:39
- A calmer response - General Vagueness, 2015-06-23, 16:48
- A calmer response -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:31
- Wow - car15, 2015-06-24, 02:24
- +1 for almost everything -
ZackDark,
2015-06-23, 12:51
- Wow - extra-credit - Miguel Chavez, 2015-06-23, 12:47
- Wow -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 12:46
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-23, 12:30
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:08
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-23, 13:14
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 13:22
- I mean . . . this REALLY seems like sensationalism -
Monochron,
2015-06-23, 14:13
- Click-bait. -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:52
- I'm outraged that you can't relate. ;) - Ragashingo, 2015-06-23, 18:55
- Click-bait. - RaichuKFM, 2015-06-23, 21:58
- Click-bait. - Vortech, 2015-06-24, 00:39
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 03:36
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 15:29
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 17:14
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 18:10
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-25, 02:27
- I'm going to explain this again simply - Monochron, 2015-06-25, 12:40
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-25, 02:27
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 18:10
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Fuertisimo,
2015-06-24, 17:14
- I'm going to explain this again simply -
Monochron,
2015-06-24, 15:29
- Click-bait. -
Kermit,
2015-06-23, 18:52
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 14:42
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:45
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-06-23, 14:50
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 14:45
- I mean . . . this REALLY seems like sensationalism -
Monochron,
2015-06-23, 14:13
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:08
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-23, 12:36
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:40
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Funkmon,
2015-06-23, 09:15
- The thing that bothers me the most about this interview... -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 08:36
- Deej responds to the response -
General Vagueness,
2015-06-23, 05:13
- Here is the forum thread - Relativiox, 2015-06-23, 08:23
- What happened to you Bungie? -
someotherguy,
2015-06-23, 10:15
- What happened to you Bungie? -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 17:14
- Read it the same way. - Xenos, 2015-06-23, 18:36
- Yeah, I was in a bad mood today. - someotherguy, 2015-06-23, 20:19
- What happened to you Bungie? -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-23, 17:14
- Finally read the interview. Luke is great. - ProbablyLast, 2015-06-23, 11:23
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 12:30
- Holy cow - ZackDark, 2015-06-23, 12:47
- The cost of being a collector. -
Miguel Chavez,
2015-06-23, 13:15
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 14:18
- The cost of being a collector. -
Harmanimus,
2015-06-24, 01:56
- The cost of being a collector. -
Speedracer513,
2015-06-24, 10:48
- That counts as "fun" in my books - ZackDark, 2015-06-24, 12:03
- The cost of being a collector. -
Speedracer513,
2015-06-24, 10:48
- The cost of being a collector. -
Harmanimus,
2015-06-24, 01:56
- The cost of being a collector. -
unoudid,
2015-06-23, 14:18
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-23, 12:32
- Golden Warlock Turd confirmed. -
yakaman,
2015-06-23, 16:00
- Golden Warlock Turd OP. Bingle PLZ Nerf - unoudid, 2015-06-23, 16:04
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
Xenos,
2015-06-23, 18:00
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
slycrel,
2015-06-24, 02:01
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. - Xenos, 2015-06-24, 02:33
- Day 1 players to get unspecified Bonus Content. -
slycrel,
2015-06-24, 02:01
- Golden Warlock Turd confirmed. -
yakaman,
2015-06-23, 16:00
- boils down to selling more of the base game to pad numbers - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-23, 14:32
- From these comments I expected Luke to come off badly -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-23, 14:50
- One nit - Beorn, 2015-06-23, 16:00
- It's all relative -
Earendil,
2015-06-23, 16:36
- It's all relative - Leviathan, 2015-06-23, 17:01
- It's all relative - Kahzgul, 2015-06-23, 21:51