I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... (Gaming)

by Leviathan , Hotel Zanzibar, Saturday, September 05, 2015, 02:06 (3166 days ago) @ CyberKN

But personally, from what we know, I see relatable challenges on both sides of this issue. The whole thing just makes me sad.

I think, like Marty, I too would be outraged if a publisher took away my contribution on a vital event like that. But I can also see how challenging it might be for a whole studio to work with that outrage (especially in such an important role) if they were already into the thick of it and trying to make a good game despite challenges with the publisher.

The paragraph that starts with "O’Donnell reacted angrily..." specifically made my heart rise, then turn and sink. :(

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Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - CyberKN, 2015-09-05, 01:09
- I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 02:06
  - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Schooly D, 2015-09-05, 02:18
    - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - breitzen, 2015-09-05, 02:43
    - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 02:47
      - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Schooly D, 2015-09-05, 13:41
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Jillybean, 2015-09-05, 14:27
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-09-05, 19:41
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Cody Miller, 2015-09-05, 20:19
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 20:51
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:53
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 21:01
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - dogcow, 2015-09-05, 23:24
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 16:50
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 15:21
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-05, 15:30
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 16:31
        
        +1 - red robber, 2015-09-05, 16:39
        
        Divorce? You mean we get two Christmases! - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 16:46
        
        Yeah. - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:51
        
        You made your point fine. - PsychoRaven, 2015-09-05, 18:01
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 17:52
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-09-05, 19:44
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:43
    - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - narcogen, 2015-09-07, 23:04
- Well, I never thought we'd find out what happened this quick - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 02:57
- Wow - car15, 2015-09-05, 04:15
  - tl;dr = fucking Activision, bad times Marty - Raflection, 2015-09-05, 04:22
    - I said explicitly that Marty behaved unprofessionally - car15, 2015-09-05, 04:27
  - Wow - Schooly D, 2015-09-05, 05:05
    - Wow - iconicbanana, 2015-09-05, 05:08
      - Wow - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 05:43
      - Wow - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 01:12
        
        Wow - car15, 2015-09-06, 01:20
        
        Good point. - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 01:26
        
        Wow - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 02:04
  - Wow - Ragashingo, 2015-09-05, 14:23
    - Wow - Avateur, 2015-09-05, 22:57
      - Wow - car15, 2015-09-05, 23:02
  - Wow - FyreWulff, 2015-09-05, 19:14
    - +1 - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 19:18
    - Wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 19:34
      - Wow - FyreWulff, 2015-09-05, 19:45
        
        Wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 20:14
        
        Wow - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 20:35
        
        Wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 20:49
- Poor Bungie - Ze Moose, 2015-09-05, 04:38
  - We get to experience the great publisher for another 9 years - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 06:33
  - Poor Bungie - ncsuDuncan, 2015-09-05, 13:08
    - Poor Bungie - car15, 2015-09-05, 13:16
      - Poor Bungie - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 13:27
      - Is there something wrong with Halo 2? - red robber, 2015-09-05, 16:50
        
        +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-05, 16:52
        
        +2 - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 19:51
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 21:41
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:47
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 22:01
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - iconicbanana, 2015-09-05, 22:06
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - car15, 2015-09-05, 22:21
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - Avateur, 2015-09-05, 23:03
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - car15, 2015-09-05, 23:16
        
        Why would a simple statement of truth need nuance? - scarab, 2015-09-06, 04:29
        
        Why would a simple statement of truth need nuance? - iconicbanana, 2015-09-06, 11:39
        
        or throw a wobbly - scarab, 2015-09-06, 13:50
        
        Get bent. - iconicbanana, 2015-09-06, 17:09
        
        #shotsfired - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:15
        
        Poking holes in a strawman isn't shotsfired. - iconicbanana, 2015-09-06, 17:24
        
        Poking holes in a strawman isn't shotsfired. - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:36
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 17:40
        
        Calm down. All of you. - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:54
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 18:03
        
        Calm down. All of you. - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:05
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:07
        
        Calm down. All of you. - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:13
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:15
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:04
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:06
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:17
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:27
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:33
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:46
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:56
        
        Missed my point completely - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 19:09
        
        That picnic ... - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 19:20
        
        That picnic ... - breitzen, 2015-09-06, 21:52
        
        Missed my point completely - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 18:19
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:32
        
        Missed my point completely - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 18:55
        
        Missed my point completely - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 19:20
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2015-09-09, 03:25
        
        Poking holes in a strawman isn't shotsfired. - scarab, 2015-09-06, 18:14
        
        Something to think about. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 18:43
        
        And this... - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 19:52
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 22:11
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 22:25
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 23:01
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 22:54
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 22:59
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 23:03
        
        Stop. Cool off. Be nice to each other. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 04:54
        
        Stop. Cool off. Be nice to each other. - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 15:14
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 14:35
- Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - EffortlessFury, 2015-09-05, 16:17
  - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 16:24
    - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 16:39
      - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - Monochron, 2015-09-05, 17:20
        
        Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - dogcow, 2015-09-07, 14:22
  - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 18:35
- Performance reviews - Monochron, 2015-09-05, 17:09
- Now I feel bad for liking all that Zep... - ZackDark, 2015-09-05, 18:29
  - Now I feel bad for liking all that Zep... - dogcow, 2015-09-07, 14:25
- Activision - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 19:00
- I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 20:24
  - +1 - Claude Errera, 2015-09-05, 20:36
  - How dare you be level headed! - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:38
  - I agree with Leviathan . . . - CyberKN, 2015-09-05, 20:49
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:13
      - I agree with Leviathan . . . - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-05, 22:34
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 23:20
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-06, 04:00
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 05:53
        
        I don't have all year ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-06, 11:39
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 14:48
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 14:54
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 16:52
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 17:18
  - I agree with Leviathan . . . - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 20:53
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:56
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:23
  - I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 21:26
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:41
      - I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 21:57
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 22:50
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-07, 17:18
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - General Vagueness, 2015-09-07, 20:08
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-07, 23:31
    - +1 - Jillybean, 2015-09-05, 21:58
      - Explain Bungie.net then. :P - Funkmon, 2015-09-06, 01:05
        
        Explain Bungie.net then. :P - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-06, 12:32
  - It is our business... - naturl selexion, 2015-09-05, 23:06
    - It is our business... - scarab, 2015-09-06, 05:02
      - It is our business... - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 17:12
        
        It is our business... - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:19
        
        It is our business... - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 19:51
  - What does move on mean in this context? - scarab, 2015-09-06, 04:43
    - It means . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 14:50
      - It means . . . - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 15:24
- Yay for Marty! - dogcow, 2015-09-05, 23:10
- Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - car15, 2015-09-06, 00:13
  - This is starting to feel like gossip to me. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 04:45
  - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 15:07
    - u mad? - car15, 2015-09-06, 16:53
      - u mad? - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 17:00
        
        u mad? - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:16
- Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - Avateur, 2015-09-06, 00:44
  - Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - car15, 2015-09-06, 01:14
    - Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-06, 12:29
      - There are lots of good people at bungie - breitzen, 2015-09-06, 12:51
        
        There are lots of good people at bungie - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:28
        
        There are lots of good people at bungie - Pyromancy, 2015-09-07, 13:11
        
        ...How is posting here supporting Bungie, exactly? - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-07, 13:13
        
        petetheduck works for Bungie, right? Let's ask him...? :) - Pyromancy, 2015-09-07, 13:27
        
        He does? Since when?! - Quirel, 2015-09-09, 04:05
        
        He doesn't - Avateur, 2015-09-09, 23:40
        
        ...How is posting here supporting Bungie, exactly? - Leviathan, 2015-09-07, 13:55
        
        ...How is posting here supporting Bungie, exactly? - Xenos, 2015-09-07, 14:12
        
        Yes. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 17:28
        
        Yes. - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:32
        
        Yes. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 17:35
        
        Yes. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 17:48
        
        Yes. - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 19:28
        
        Yes. - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-07, 04:48
  - Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - FoolsRun, 2015-09-08, 10:33
- Good! - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 16:45
  - Everyone participating in this thread should read this. - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 17:22
    - Agreed. #Kermitismyhero - breitzen, 2015-09-06, 17:28
  - Well said. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 17:50
  - Well done, Kermit :) - Lawnmower172, 2015-09-06, 19:05
  - Good! - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 19:19
    - Good! - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 19:26
      - Good! - Avateur, 2015-09-06, 21:28
        
        Good! - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 21:44
        
        Good! - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 22:48
        
        I bet that Sir Paul reads this forum, I should post more ;) - Pyromancy, 2015-09-07, 12:37
- Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - General Vagueness, 2015-09-12, 15:02
  - No, and I can say with confidence: they won't. - Xenos, 2015-09-12, 15:31
- Former bosses happy with ruling, not happy with Marty - General Vagueness, 2015-09-13, 02:27

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